How easy it is to cause hurt to others.  IT seems to be much easier then it is to forgive them..
I always wounder why?
Why did Jehovah chose to forgive us? we are dust ? yet we must mean so much to him.. It puzzles me abit.
Every day people probably do at least one thing to hurt someone.
Yet as another thread said " people also take themselves to seriously"
I do believe that to be true in many ways.
I have always found myself amusing. and i don't take offense at things to easily. well at least I think so..  "self perseived of course.."
I work with a person that is very easily "twisted" and many people have told her so.. yet she still doesn't think it is her being to sensitive.
I personally feel that she takes herself to seriously.. and this makes it hard to be around her and that cause's hurt. cause she feels left out..
I have a bad memory so I forget pretty easy.
But her memory is good.  so I think I should bang her in the head to help with memory loss and she would be happier. LOL seeing if your payin attention.
What do you think? Â
are some people so self aware to be so strick on themselves that they can't forgive easily
while others are pretty much oblivious. therefore forgivness is easy?
any comments are welcome..
IT just seems to take more energy to stay angry with someone.
(MSG) Hebrews 13...
" Stay on good terms with each other, held together by love.
Be ready with a meal or a bed when it's needed. Why, some have extended hospitality to angels without ever knowing it!
Regard prisoners as if you were in prison with them. Look on victims of abuse as if what happened to them had happened to you.
Honor marriage, and guard the sacredness of sexual intimacy between wife and husband. God draws a firm line against casual and illicit sex.
Don't be obsessed with getting more material things. Be relaxed with what you have. Since God assured us, "I'll never let you down, never walk off and leave you,"
we can boldly quote, God is there, ready to help; I'm fearless no matter what. Who or what can get to me?
Christian love, dude,
gogh
Thanks Gogh,,
I also looked this up
Forgiveness is the mental, emotional and/or spiritual process of ceasing to feel resentment or anger against another person for a perceived offence, difference or mistake, or ceasing to demand punishment or restitution.
So when Jesus said
Mark 2:5
When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralytic, "Son, your sins are forgiven."
He seemed to be saying that he forgave the adamic sin. So that no more restitution was needed.
It really is a great thing to be forgiven.  I guess that is why the script say "what we measure out will be measured out to us" or somtin close.
I guess that is what I was trying to say about my co-worker she is measuring out judgement and that made her self judging and miserable for it. Does that make any sense?
Instead of just forgiving people for misdeeds. she seems to chose to hold onto others which makes her own life subject to the same thing..
Sorry just trying to figure out why people are the way they are.
Total D. - This is proof, I suppose, of the way the spirit works as I was preoccupied with this same topic last night and now here it is.
I think forgiveness is when you unburden another from any obligation to you for something they did or did not do.
There is, however, no reason to continue to provide another with the opportunity to harm you repeatedly if you can help it. Was not the unforgivable sin the repeated denial of Christ and the failure to obey his word despite overwhelming evidence and personal testimony to its truth? Why let someone repeatedly do something to us on purpose?
So - forgive like Jehovah does but don't give this person an opportunity to kick you beyond your ability to help it, especially if they are well known for their bad traits.
Your Brother in Christ.
Son Of Korah
Hi TD....hope you don't let this person bring you down....and it can be so very discouraging.
I don't know if this person is a Godly person and that the bible means anything to her....but there comes a point when someone has to take responsiblity for their own actions and how they affect others...this can be a growing experience and a maturing and positive thing for them...otherwise they will live in a place hard for them and for everyone around them.
When you say she is easily twisted...I don't know what that means....sometimes some people are more sensitive to things than others are as you pointed out....take things to heart more....while others just seem to be completely guileless and nothing occurs to them....but you can see nothing really upsets these personalities....and others must be handled with kid gloves.
I can't really give you too much advice...as I don't think you gave enough information...not to be prying....but in any event...I'm sure you will handle it in the most just way for everyone included.
Take Care
PS and the question..forgiven ..what is it to you? To let go of holding the other responsible for some incurred wrong....we know that we can't forget...but we can forgive and not hold animosity and negative feelings that are also harming us physcially and mentally and emotionally poisoning us...flooding us with negative chemicals released into our blood stream...affecting our personality...supressing the good chemicals which make our personality so pleasant and mild and give us life giving emotions.
HI FC,
Thanks,, it is not really something that I am "dealing" with anymore.
It is more about figureing out what forgivness is and why some people seem to never let go..
Then maybe just maybe I could say something that would spur her to think about this for herself.
It's just I don't understand why people are so willing to take offense and then hold onto things that make themselves miserable.. especially when the things they hold onto are nothing but words that were taken in the wrong way.
:happyheart: TD
Hi TD....good to hear its not an issue for you anymore...I found these types of personalities...are sometimes a control issue....I had an experience with a sister-inlaw....after somethings went down in the family....she decided she wasn't going to talk to me....and in front of my dad who had a stroke in aug-05 and my mom I tried to engage her in conversation...she was standing with her back to me and I complimented her on something....she acted as though I wasn't there....I thought well she didn't hear me....but it became painfully aware she was totally ignoring me...this hurt my mom and dad and of course myself.
Well she had earlier in an email told me how she had never done anything unsavory in her whole life,
So now I know what an unforgiving and self righteous person she can be.
I took this as an opportunity to remind her of all the things she had done scince I had known her scince she was 14 yo.....things I guess she had forgotten....I thought she needed a reality check...that she is no better or worse than anyone in my family ...we all have our strengths and weaknesses....I have tried to make peace with her and each and everytime she refuses....so I figure she will have to answer for her actions and thoughts....I sent her letters....emails, tried to call her...tried everything....it must take alot of hate to keep this kind of thing alive....unforgiveness.
For our own good we need to let go and get over the percieved hurt and talk things over....there are very few really evil and diabolical persons really....most just want to forgive and move on....few will harbor evil forever...it will probably kill them if they don't let go...and I don't think a truly evil or diabolical person would care about forgiveness anyway.
Take Care