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Prodigal Son Wrote:

isomam Wrote:
[align=justify]hi, jimmy :hibye: i know you would never intentionally call our brother dak a liar, so i can only assume you missed what he posted earlier:

I found this site only a couple days before I registered. I thought I could find some helpful suggestions about the most difficult problem in my life. (post #57 on page 4 of this thread.)


My mistake Isomam... I must have been thinking of another welcome thread I had read at another time. Never for a second did I ever get the impression that DAK wasn't sincere. He's just in a tough spot that I can relate to because I've been there!

As for those who have suspicions about some kind of infiltration for ulterior motives, I think it's partly because it is known that the Watchtower does indeed use such tactics and partly because a lot of x-JW's have been pummeled spiritually and emotionally and are still healing, so they have raw nerves and are very sensitized. Still, it's no excuse to call somebody out until we have some kind of proof. We should always give somebody the benefit of the doubt.

It's only a discussion board. If we have faith the size of a mustard grain, there really is nothing to fear or get upset about.

Love and Peace!
Jimmy C.


no problem-o, jimmy. :ok: as our dear sis lee likes to say:

onward and upward. ;)

Dear Lone Wolf,
Thanks for your post, I take it as said with a good heart and motive.

If you read my posts on this thread, NOWHERE, did I say I doubted DAK's motives.

But life does teach us object lessons:

New ones, like DAK and yourself, need to be aware that people on forums may adopt dual or multiple personas. I am not talking for example of husband and wife or son and father, using the same computer.


I was on a forum some years ago where the owner came on and apologized to the members because he had been found out using a dual persona to manipulate another forum. I guess he was concerned what we might think if we had found out? Universally the forum members applauded his apolegy. However, sadly, he did the same thing later on another forum, where he was himself and also posed as "a sincere honest seeker of information."
Some may feel this is a good way to get one's point across...but I think its sneaky.

I don't know whether or not dual persona is banned here, I hope it is, it certainly should be, because it a tool of manipulators. Perhaps Admin can tell us?

Some people, for no good reason, have an ambiguous persona. They hide what they are. One may be on a forum for years, which purports to have high aims, like another I was on, but, today, I still don't know if that person in charge, who I 'rubbed shoulders' with...nettingly speaking...was married, had children or had a different gender preference. He never really gave anything of himself...how can one feel close to a person like that, LW?
It appeared from what was said to me later by the person in question, that the purpose of the forum was not, as I believed when I joined.

Sadly, as the pedophile gravitates to children, we plebs in the masses can be politically manipulated in the cyberspace environment by those who love power over people.

But I guess you know that, LW?

But having said all that, I hope you and Dak, enjoy your experience on this forum when this hiatus here is hopefully, soon forgotten.
Best regards
Derek




Lone Wolf Wrote:
Dear Derek you don't seem to realise that you rocked the boat and continue to cause ripples. The whole point of Paradise Cafe is to help our brothers and sisters. When you came to the Cafe did anyone doubt your motives?

I am not a moderator, I am just saying what I am seeing.

L.W.

Well I was kind of hoping that this thread would turn back to just welcoming our br. dak ...

But since it hasn't I have an idea ... :bulb: based on your last comment br. derek ... :giverose:

Instead of answering it here though perhaps I will start another thread in the GENERAL topics section to see if this thread will be allowed to go back to WELCOMING ...??

If that is ok with ya'll ...?? :love::grouphug:

I too am flummoxed br. iso as to why this topic has gone as it has and for the life of me am mightily perplexed ...?? :shocked::confused:

Anyway ... if I may START OVER ...:happyheart::giverose:



WELCOME to our beautiful cafe dear br. dak ... the tables are beginning to be righted and the dishes sorted out and so on ... :hibye:

Looking forward to hearing from you once again and may you have peace and ease of mind as you continue to sort through your feelings and findings ... :peace:

Luv BR :sheepy: :bouncyhearts:
Hi there, Derek:hibye: You wanted an answer to this?

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I don't know whether or not dual persona is banned here, I hope it is, it certainly should be, because it a tool of manipulators. Perhaps Admin can tell us?


I can tell you this, we don't allow anyone to have more than one account. Nor do we allow members to share their accounts with others unless those others identify who they are at the outset. And that should not be the case on a regular basis, but only if they are traveling or having a problem with their computer, for instance.

This dual persona thing has been done more than once in the past where someone tried to deceive the members into thinking they were new to the board. We now do an IP check if we have any cause for suspicion.

It's a much better idea for members to report a suspicious post than to air those suspicions on the board. It saves a lot of grief.

I'm hoping dak doesn't mind us borrowing his thread for this little aside. He's been very forgiving -- thick skin indeed!:P

Have a beautiful day, like in Beau's picture, folks. It is raining dogs and cats here with T-storms and all. It saves watering the garden and lightening is God's free fertilizer....hehehe.

love:grouphug:
Rez

Well speaking for myself, I know I tend to take things seriously until I take a deep breath knowing it was never a life or death experience to be in the middle of a war of words. If I was Dak, I would almost feel privileged that so many might fight over my innocence. I think the real hurt comes when someone discovers the real "who you are" and then I feel badly for my own deceit.

Misunderstandings occur and maligning of personas are commonplace, even in real life. But as I look back over my life, the more I learn and the more I accept personal correction, the more I understand that I was indeed a phoney in many of my dealings of life. Sometimes our own suspicions are generated by not dealing yet with prejudicial, even malvolent feelings that reek from our own person without our yet being aware of them. It happens when therapists kindly probe beneath the issues and guide us to what really drives our engines.

sw
Dear Anja, my real name is Stephen Sharland.
My daughter used to call me Lone Wolf because I spent a long time alone in the wilderness.
I hunt and fish and feel at one with nature.
I am not a witness nor an ex witness but am newly learning about the Bible. I have no fears, no enemies, and nothing to hide.
I keep myself fit, and am meticulous with my health regime.
I am now starting to learn to trust people.
I hope this helps you understand who I am Anja.
Pic. will soon be put up.

Best regards LW
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