06-23-2010, 08:45 AM
06-23-2010, 09:11 AM
digital_punk Wrote:
If the Texas Oral sex ban thread was going downhill, this one is in contention for 1st equal. :huh:
Indeed and that thread could of been of help to people. This one however is not even in the controversy room.
06-23-2010, 09:37 AM
Seraphim Wrote:
Indeed and that thread could of been of help to people. This one however is not even in the controversy room.
Yes....I hear you on that one bro....at least the Texas thread had potential...this thread, im not so sure.
Unless of course people are just biased. :dontknow:
06-23-2010, 10:58 AM
Hoo boy! I just get to sit down to my computer and there are two reports on that picture....soon to be removed. Believe me, there is no bias here.
How is this an encouragement for Christians? It will be gone post haste.
Rez:detective:
How is this an encouragement for Christians? It will be gone post haste.
Rez:detective:
06-23-2010, 11:17 AM
Seraphim Wrote:
digital_punk Wrote:
If the Texas Oral sex ban thread was going downhill, this one is in contention for 1st equal. :huh:
Indeed and that thread could of been of help to people. This one however is not even in the controversy room.
Brian, your perception of helpfulness doesn't seem to include everyone. The Texas Oral sex thread was very hurtful to some. There are those on this board who have been harmed sexually as children and who are triggered by that sort of discussion.
I'd suggest getting a blog spot for that topic, but please, not the Paradise Cafe.
And, your thread wasn't started in the controversy room, now was it!:thinking:
06-23-2010, 11:38 AM
Artcritic Wrote:
Willa Wrote:
Artcritic Wrote:
If a brother broke up bread for the Lords evening meal, and shaped it like this one, handed it to you, now what would you think?
As for the young boy Have you seen the original pic? I can assure you it dose not look like this. A subliminal image is a secondary image. That is what this is.
As for the young boy Have you seen the original pic? I can assure you it dose not look like this. A subliminal image is a secondary image. That is what this is.
That's part of my point, Joe. If I was looking down at the plate in front of me, it would certainly look like 2 rectangular or oval pieces of bread. From the angle of this picture, though, they take on a different, merged, shape. What you're saying must be that the pieces are from 2 differently shaped loaves? Or that they're purposely shaped pieces of bread?
I don't know about it, Joe. But I do know we have very suggestive imaginations and sometimes these things aren't seen until someone points them out and then we can usually see what they do. How much time we spend actively looking for these things, and what merit or purpose we assign to them, is completely up to the individual.
I make my own flat bread for the Lord's meal, so I'm in no danger of someones' perverse game, if that's what it is. :drinking:
:peace:
I respect what you say Willa nevertheless it is very clear to me what the art department is doing. I studied art at university and I have been taught all the subliminal methods. A sub can be viewed two ways. That's what its all about. I also have qualifications in graphics and design. Animation too. My motive is to help people out of the tower. I don't even judge the artists who do this. What is there motive? Who knows the truth of the matter. All I know is they helped me out of the tower and I'm gratefully for that. That's why I will not judge them. I am an art critic of the Tower that's all.
I get worn out at times doing this and frustrated at the blind who wish not to see. That's there choice and I will not judge. I am going to give it a rest now and leave the rest to Jesus. What he dose is not my business. He sees the full picture and we don't. He knows who is for him and who is against him. Like a master judo expert he uses the strength of others to over turn them. Thanks all for looking and it will be some time before I post again.
I have a new business starting up next week and my time will be taken up with that.
Wishing you all the best Joe.
Willa This is an example in graphics. It can be viewed as bread and it can be viewed as ..........? Its meant to be viewed two ways. Its neither one or the other. It looks like a loaf of bread to me but both are correct. Well that's it for now.
[picture removed by admin team member]
Remove the first picture too because there is no difference. Did I say what the picture was? No You removed it because you could see two meanings to that picture. My point exactly. By removing it you are admitting you see it. What exactly did you see I said it was a loaf of bread and that is what it is.
Willa said "I don't know about it, Joe. But I do know we have very suggestive imaginations" May I remind you I did not say what the picture was infact I said it was bread. You see what you wish to see. By taking this off you showed a lack of good judgment because the pic from the WT is no different from the bread pic. Both bread placed the same way. Thats why I did that to show how people react, and look what you did.
06-23-2010, 01:45 PM
Come on Joe,
The picture that was removed had nothing to do with the WT and it had reports on it. The ones reporting it did not object to the first picture because it had relevance. The one that was removed was over the top and unnecessary.
When moderators remove an image or a link they do not do so without some sort of serious complaint. Sorry that you were so attached to that loaf of bread.
rez:detective:
The picture that was removed had nothing to do with the WT and it had reports on it. The ones reporting it did not object to the first picture because it had relevance. The one that was removed was over the top and unnecessary.
When moderators remove an image or a link they do not do so without some sort of serious complaint. Sorry that you were so attached to that loaf of bread.
rez:detective:
06-23-2010, 04:35 PM
[quote=Resolute]
Come on Joe,
The picture that was removed had nothing to do with the WT and it had reports on it. The ones reporting it did not object to the first picture because it had relevance. The one that was removed was over the top and unnecessary.
When moderators remove an image or a link they do not do so without some sort of serious complaint. Sorry that you were so attached to that loaf of bread.
Resolute Why did they report it, what did they see? Both pics have the same theme BREAD both have the same secondary image. The one that is the most damming is the insult to Jesus. Sorry the one you took down did not do that. Your judgment is crooked and twisted.
AS BR SAID BELOW
Hi all ...
If I may chime in with a 'definition' ...
Evil ...
evil, immorality, wickedness, iniquity
morally objectionable behavior
(adj) malefic, malevolent, malign, evil
having or exerting a malignant influence
Adjective
having qualities tending to injury and mischief; having a nature or properties which tend to badness; mischievous; not good; worthless or deleterious; poor; as, an evil beast; and evil plant; an evil crop
having or exhibiting bad moral qualities; morally corrupt; wicked; wrong; vicious; as, evil conduct, thoughts, heart, words, and the like
in an evil manner; not well; ill; badly; unhappily; injuriously; unkindly
Noun
anything which impairs the happiness of a being or deprives a being of any good; anything which causes suffering of any kind to sentient beings; injury; mischief; harm; -- opposed to good
moral badness, or the deviation of a moral being from the principles of virtue imposed by conscience, or by the will of the Supreme Being, or by the principles of a lawful human authority; disposition to do wrong; moral offence; wickedness; depravity
Sooooo ... with all these definitions in mind ... I think it quite fair for you Susanna to say that this 'picture' is 'evil' ... and that the person who put it there, be he young or old, has indeed done something 'wicked' !!
For to ME ... it is a BLASPHEMY against the precious life that the picture is supposed to portray ... it is MORALLY CORRUPT to me and DEGRADING to our sinless Lord who died for us ...
Since the picture portrays an occasion MOST HOLY to our dear brothers and sisters ... this makes it even more so IMHO!!
May we ... maybe I should say me ... never seek to 'excuse' or to try to 'explain away', in the spirit of not wanting to seem 'too critical' when it is something that MUST CLEARLY be dispicable to our heavenly Father!!
There is NO SHARING with light and dark ... and this image is most certainly 'dark' ...!
Ooookaaay ... rant is over ...
You can uplug your ears now ...
My love as always ... BR
Come on Joe,
The picture that was removed had nothing to do with the WT and it had reports on it. The ones reporting it did not object to the first picture because it had relevance. The one that was removed was over the top and unnecessary.
When moderators remove an image or a link they do not do so without some sort of serious complaint. Sorry that you were so attached to that loaf of bread.
Resolute Why did they report it, what did they see? Both pics have the same theme BREAD both have the same secondary image. The one that is the most damming is the insult to Jesus. Sorry the one you took down did not do that. Your judgment is crooked and twisted.
AS BR SAID BELOW
Hi all ...
If I may chime in with a 'definition' ...
Evil ...
evil, immorality, wickedness, iniquity
morally objectionable behavior
(adj) malefic, malevolent, malign, evil
having or exerting a malignant influence
Adjective
having qualities tending to injury and mischief; having a nature or properties which tend to badness; mischievous; not good; worthless or deleterious; poor; as, an evil beast; and evil plant; an evil crop
having or exhibiting bad moral qualities; morally corrupt; wicked; wrong; vicious; as, evil conduct, thoughts, heart, words, and the like
in an evil manner; not well; ill; badly; unhappily; injuriously; unkindly
Noun
anything which impairs the happiness of a being or deprives a being of any good; anything which causes suffering of any kind to sentient beings; injury; mischief; harm; -- opposed to good
moral badness, or the deviation of a moral being from the principles of virtue imposed by conscience, or by the will of the Supreme Being, or by the principles of a lawful human authority; disposition to do wrong; moral offence; wickedness; depravity
Sooooo ... with all these definitions in mind ... I think it quite fair for you Susanna to say that this 'picture' is 'evil' ... and that the person who put it there, be he young or old, has indeed done something 'wicked' !!
For to ME ... it is a BLASPHEMY against the precious life that the picture is supposed to portray ... it is MORALLY CORRUPT to me and DEGRADING to our sinless Lord who died for us ...
Since the picture portrays an occasion MOST HOLY to our dear brothers and sisters ... this makes it even more so IMHO!!
May we ... maybe I should say me ... never seek to 'excuse' or to try to 'explain away', in the spirit of not wanting to seem 'too critical' when it is something that MUST CLEARLY be dispicable to our heavenly Father!!
There is NO SHARING with light and dark ... and this image is most certainly 'dark' ...!
Ooookaaay ... rant is over ...
You can uplug your ears now ...
My love as always ... BR
06-23-2010, 05:09 PM
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Resolute Why did they report it, what did they see? Both pics have the same theme BREAD both have the same secondary image. The one that is the most damming is the insult to Jesus. Sorry the one you took down did not do that. Your judgment is crooked and twisted.
Hel-looo! Boy, are you seriously messed up or what! If you felt that this thread that YOU started and the damming image that YOU put up are insulting to Jesus, then why on earth did you put them up in the first place?!
...and you say that MY judgment is crooked and twisted???:shocked:... Maybe you need a break in posting pictures.
Rez:detective:
06-23-2010, 05:49 PM
Resolute Wrote:
Seraphim Wrote:
digital_punk Wrote:
If the Texas Oral sex ban thread was going downhill, this one is in contention for 1st equal. :huh:
Indeed and that thread could of been of help to people. This one however is not even in the controversy room.
Brian, your perception of helpfulness doesn't seem to include everyone. The Texas Oral sex thread was very hurtful to some. There are those on this board who have been harmed sexually as children and who are triggered by that sort of discussion.
I'd suggest getting a blog spot for that topic, but please, not the Paradise Cafe.
And, your thread wasn't started in the controversy room, now was it!:thinking:
Point taken Res but you miss my point.
06-23-2010, 05:52 PM
I don't think I missed it Brian, just different point of view. The admin. team has to think of the whole board, not just a few.
06-23-2010, 06:01 PM
Resolute Wrote:
I don't think I missed it Brian, just different point of view. The admin. team has to think of the whole board, not just a few.
Indeed I agree but you did miss my point.
06-23-2010, 06:40 PM
Resolute Wrote:
Quote:
Resolute Why did they report it, what did they see? Both pics have the same theme BREAD both have the same secondary image. The one that is the most damming is the insult to Jesus. Sorry the one you took down did not do that. Your judgment is crooked and twisted.
Hel-looo! Boy, are you seriously messed up or what! If you felt that this thread that YOU started and the damming image that YOU put up are insulting to Jesus, then why on earth did you put them up in the first place?!
REZ CALM DOWN BEFORE YOU BURST A BLOOD VESSEL.
...and you say that MY judgment is crooked and twisted???:shocked:... REZ YES IT IS CROOKED AND TWISTED
Rez:detective:
06-23-2010, 07:04 PM
06-23-2010, 07:54 PM
Artcritic Wrote:
Resolute Wrote:
Quote:
Resolute Why did they report it, what did they see? Both pics have the same theme BREAD both have the same secondary image. The one that is the most damming is the insult to Jesus. Sorry the one you took down did not do that. Your judgment is crooked and twisted.
Hel-looo! Boy, are you seriously messed up or what! If you felt that this thread that YOU started and the damming image that YOU put up are insulting to Jesus, then why on earth did you put them up in the first place?!
REZ CALM DOWN BEFORE YOU BURST A BLOOD VESSEL.
...and you say that MY judgment is crooked and twisted???:shocked:... REZ YES IT IS CROOKED AND TWISTED
Rez:detective:
hey joe, my friend and brother. :friends: maybe it's time to give it a rest for a little while. nobody's saying you are wrong in any way, except maybe just pushing a little too hard. think of the good of the group here. most here have already managed to make their way out of watchtower-land, so in that sense maybe you're 'preaching to the choir'? :dontknow: if some find the topic or the pictures offensive, is that not reason enough to respectfully back away? :thumbup: