06-19-2010, 12:51 PM
Wanadoo Wrote:
Hi there Seraphim :hibye:
I must distinct decline your courtesy :ok:
I must distinct decline your courtesy :ok:
Seraphim Wrote:
O dear!
Well of course you do Talkative but it wasn't a courtesy.
06-19-2010, 12:51 PM
09-05-2010, 05:59 PM
showing love to all lights up and activates your peniel gland..which will show you your way home.
1 John 4:8
8.Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.
gen. 32:30
Jacob named the place Peniel (which means "face of God"), for he said, "I have seen God face to face, yet my life has been spared."
safeguard you heart and thinking and most of all seek God , speak truth, and be faithul by showing love unconditionally, loving everyone as you love yourself.
something beautiful!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRu8b62vx...re=related
love unselfishly:)
This witness is sure..the race can be won.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m96MtNlM...re=related
1 John 4:8
8.Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.
gen. 32:30
Jacob named the place Peniel (which means "face of God"), for he said, "I have seen God face to face, yet my life has been spared."
safeguard you heart and thinking and most of all seek God , speak truth, and be faithul by showing love unconditionally, loving everyone as you love yourself.
something beautiful!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRu8b62vx...re=related
love unselfishly:)
This witness is sure..the race can be won.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m96MtNlM...re=related
09-10-2010, 07:58 PM
Like Daniel
7:13 “I kept on beholding in the visions of the night, and see there!! with the clouds of the heavens someone like a son of man happened to be coming; and to the Ancient of Days he gained access, and they brought him up close even before that One
7:13 “I kept on beholding in the visions of the night, and see there!! with the clouds of the heavens someone like a son of man happened to be coming; and to the Ancient of Days he gained access, and they brought him up close even before that One
09-10-2010, 10:19 PM
Seraphim Wrote:
OK two points:
The first point is that Jesus is not known to have taught Gods name to the disciples as though they didn't know it already because they did, or that Gods name has any magical power what so ever. In the Lords prayer Jesus said `hallowed be thy name` with out using the name, but instead called God Father which in Aramaic is Abba, the language Jesus spoke, which is baby talk meaning Dadda. That term is directly transliterated as being the word Jesus used in Mark 14:36. That is what Jesus taught. In other words Jesus made more of the relationship with God then the name of God, which actually isn't really Gods name anyway, but thats another topic.
The second point is a single word often was not enough to expel demons, not even Gods name. Jesus told the disciples that certain types of spirit do not come out except by the process of prayer. In fact the only instance of Jesus failing to do a miracle on the first attempt was exactly when dealing with demons. He didn't use Gods name for guaranteed success as if that would have worked. He was Gods son and his name meant `with us is God`. The account of legion in both Luke and Mark confirm this (see below). So you see the idea of a magic word or even Gods name having special power is not correct because even Jesus taught and demonstrated this.
Luk 8:28 When he saw Jesus, he screamed, fell down in front of him, and said in a loud voice, "What do you want from me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg you not to torture me!"
Luk 8:29 For Jesus was in the process of ordering the unclean spirit to come out of the man. On many occasions the unclean spirit had seized the man, and though he was kept under guard and bound with chains and shackles, he would break the chains and be driven by the demon into deserted places.
Luk 8:30 Jesus asked him, "What's your name?" He answered, "Legion," because many demons had gone into him.
Luk 8:31 Then the demons began begging Jesus not to order them to go into the bottomless pit.
Luk 8:32 Now a large herd of pigs was grazing there on the hillside. So the demons begged Jesus to let them go into those pigs, and he let them do this.
Mar 5:6 When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and fell down in front of him,
Mar 5:7 screaming in a loud voice, "What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I command you in the name of God not to torture me!"
Mar 5:8 For Jesus had been saying to him, "Come out of the man, you unclean spirit!"
Mar 5:9 Then Jesus asked him, "What's your name?" He said to him, "My name is Legion, because there are many of us."
Mar 5:10 He kept pleading with Jesus not to send them out of the territory.
Mar 5:11 Now a large herd of pigs was grazing on a hillside nearby.
Mar 5:12 So the demons begged him, "Send us among the pigs, so that we can go into them!"
Mar 5:13 So he let them do this. The unclean spirits came out of the man and went into the pigs, and the herd of about 2,000 rushed down the cliff into the sea and drowned there.
The first point is that Jesus is not known to have taught Gods name to the disciples as though they didn't know it already because they did, or that Gods name has any magical power what so ever. In the Lords prayer Jesus said `hallowed be thy name` with out using the name, but instead called God Father which in Aramaic is Abba, the language Jesus spoke, which is baby talk meaning Dadda. That term is directly transliterated as being the word Jesus used in Mark 14:36. That is what Jesus taught. In other words Jesus made more of the relationship with God then the name of God, which actually isn't really Gods name anyway, but thats another topic.
The second point is a single word often was not enough to expel demons, not even Gods name. Jesus told the disciples that certain types of spirit do not come out except by the process of prayer. In fact the only instance of Jesus failing to do a miracle on the first attempt was exactly when dealing with demons. He didn't use Gods name for guaranteed success as if that would have worked. He was Gods son and his name meant `with us is God`. The account of legion in both Luke and Mark confirm this (see below). So you see the idea of a magic word or even Gods name having special power is not correct because even Jesus taught and demonstrated this.
Luk 8:28 When he saw Jesus, he screamed, fell down in front of him, and said in a loud voice, "What do you want from me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg you not to torture me!"
Luk 8:29 For Jesus was in the process of ordering the unclean spirit to come out of the man. On many occasions the unclean spirit had seized the man, and though he was kept under guard and bound with chains and shackles, he would break the chains and be driven by the demon into deserted places.
Luk 8:30 Jesus asked him, "What's your name?" He answered, "Legion," because many demons had gone into him.
Luk 8:31 Then the demons began begging Jesus not to order them to go into the bottomless pit.
Luk 8:32 Now a large herd of pigs was grazing there on the hillside. So the demons begged Jesus to let them go into those pigs, and he let them do this.
Mar 5:6 When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and fell down in front of him,
Mar 5:7 screaming in a loud voice, "What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I command you in the name of God not to torture me!"
Mar 5:8 For Jesus had been saying to him, "Come out of the man, you unclean spirit!"
Mar 5:9 Then Jesus asked him, "What's your name?" He said to him, "My name is Legion, because there are many of us."
Mar 5:10 He kept pleading with Jesus not to send them out of the territory.
Mar 5:11 Now a large herd of pigs was grazing on a hillside nearby.
Mar 5:12 So the demons begged him, "Send us among the pigs, so that we can go into them!"
Mar 5:13 So he let them do this. The unclean spirits came out of the man and went into the pigs, and the herd of about 2,000 rushed down the cliff into the sea and drowned there.
Hi Seraphim
On the whole I agree with you, but I haven't looked at Abe's links. Sorry Abe, I live in the bush where internet connection is prohibitively expensive, but will have look in a couple of weeks when I have more gigs available.
Seraphim I've been wanting to say this since I first saw the name you are using, but now seems the appropriate time.
You might like to look up your name in Hebrew (Strong's number 8314 [also 8315 & 8313] and compare 5175 as at Gen 3). Hebrew Saraph translated Seraph as found at Isa 6:2, 6 is also found at Nu 21:6,8; Deut 8:15; Isa 14:29 & 30:6 where it is translated differently; one wonders why. In Egypt guardian griffins are called Serref and in Assyrian Sarrapu.
Sorry for the digression guys, but I just couldn't resist.
love,
c.i.
09-11-2010, 02:59 PM
man hu Wrote:
I think it is going to be a magik phrase rather than a single powerful word.
ablebodiedman Wrote:
so............................
Things that make you go: HHHHmmmmm
abe
Things that make you go: HHHHmmmmm
abe
How about a mystic song :-filigree, apogee, pedigree, celery stalks and slap your knee, to be sung at the lunar perigee?
If it doesn't turn the reptilians into mush, :alien: at least it will dissolve them into convulsions of mirth.
How about if you clap your hands and say; "A sword" three times?
Ezekiel 21:14
“And you, O son of man—prophesy, and strike palm against palm, and ‘A sword!’ should be repeated for three times. The sword of the slain ones it is. It is the sword of someone slain who is great, which is making an encirclement of them. 15 In order for the heart to melt and [in order] to multiply those who are overthrown at all their gates, I will make a slaughter by the sword. Alas, it is made for a glittering, polished for a slaughter! 16 Show yourself sharp; go to the right! Set your position; go to the left! To wherever your face is directed! 17 And I myself also shall strike my one palm against my other palm, and I will bring my rage to its rest. I myself, Jehovah, have spoken.â€
In Christ
abe