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There are many videos now on youtube where people using night vision goggles are seeing what appears to be UFO's battling in space in the proximity of the earth.

It gets me to thinking about the battle in heaven that finished on the earth where Satan and his angels are now confined.

Do Satan and his angels really want to be here?

What if any of them actually tried to leave?

Would that lead to an ongoing continuous conflict between Satan's angels and Michaels angels in very close proximity to the earth?

Could this actually be what all these people with night vision goggles are seeing?

I'll post some links when I run into them if anyone is interested.

Here are some:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K41lidER-...re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGlS0R8PY8o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A13AiCFu2...re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XevJR7biQE8



In Christ

abe
Last night I watched a video by Stan Deyo, referring to antigravity technology. It's called "Technology Of The New World Order". It seems to imply this is man-made technology. Fascinating stuff.
anti gravity supposedly has been around for awhile. the movie back to the future was a play around with the idea the hover board they had. I remeber talking about it in the 80's.

it was unpredictable at the time if your were above sea level it had less repulsion to the core of the earth and vise versa.

Interpretum Wrote:
Last night I watched a video by Stan Deyo, referring to antigravity technology. It's called "Technology Of The New World Order". It seems to imply this is man-made technology. Fascinating stuff.


I recently listened to an interview of John Lear of Lear Jet fame who made some claims about reverse engineering alien vehicles and that an alternate Space Program exists behind the Space Program portrayed by the media as a facade to what is really happening.

There are also a lot of youtube videos about Erich Von Daniken of Chariots of the Gods fame which are really profound.

If in fact Satan has planted his weeds on the earth then I suppose there is a good chance of them collaborating with behind the scenes black projects for the new world order. I suspect they might have insight into extremely advanced technology and employ it for their selfish mandates.

If this is all true then I see good reason for the new world order to remain silent about disclosure. They would not want the populace to believe there actually is a true God. It would undermine the power and control they presently have over the world.

Satan and his weeds know that eventually Jesus Christ is coming with a large army of powerful angels.

Perhaps they are in collaboration with the new world order powers that be, and are preparing for a standoff.

Ronald Reagan implied this in a speech he once gave.

See this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfQximJ-6yo


Lester.B. Pearson a former Canadian prime minister gave a similar speech.

Lester.B.Pearson Wrote:
"A common fear, however, which usually means a common foe, is also, regrettably, the strongest force bringing people together, but in opposition to something or someone. Perhaps there is a hopeful possibility here in the conquest of outer space. Interplanetary activity may give us planetary peace. Once we discover Martian space ships hovering over earth's airspace, we will all come together. "How dare they threaten us like this!" we shall shout, as one, at a really United Nations!"



It seems to me that the new world order is indeed preparing the world for a battle against Jesus Christ under the guise of being invaded by alien ufo's.


I think the world is slowly being tricked by a very clever and insidious deception.


Be very careful which side you end up rooting for.


In Christ

abe

Good Erich Von Daniken video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wDholT0_...2Xh-Be-51o


In Christ

abe
I believe in celestial ships. They appear as stars, but make no noise. I have seen them many times, with the whole family. I have seen them in early morning, just over the tops of mountains in Alaska. I saw one appear as a star just after sunset. I was on the computer, and something caught the corner of my eye. I stood up and went over to my huge chalet window. I told my two girls, 14 and 7 to come and see. We watched this bright star light up, and seem to move closer to us. We kept watching as it moved closer and closer, and I said outloud..."I hope that is not a plane about to crash into our house...then all of a sudden the light of this star went out, and we couldnt hear or see anything. I thought to myself, if this was a plane, I would be hearing the engines....but all we heard was silence....

Then we all look up just over the top of a tree in the front of our house, there it was..a celestail ship..no sound..strobing pulsating light. We stood in awe..staring at this huge round ship, part of this ship over the roof, and part of it over the tree of our house just hovering in silence. It stayed there for 15 minutes...it seemed like. We felt no fear, just peace. Then it slowly went over our house, and as it left, a smaller flash of light went racing by behind it. It reminded us of Tinkerbell.

When my daughter was 3, she ran into my room one morning all excited! She had to tell me her dream. She said she was in heaven, and went through a turning hole. There she saw angels dressed in white. There was a leader angel on a white winged horse. She said He had white hair and a crown, wore all white, and had the bluest glowing sparkling eyes. She kept talking about His beautiful blue eyes. Then she said for me not to worry, they will come and save us from the lava. She said they love us all very much.

There had been other times when she has described heaven to me, and she has always said from a very young age, that she was on earth to help.

revelation 19:11-21

11. I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. "He will rule them with an iron scepter." He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:

KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

17And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, "Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18. so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and mighty men, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, small and great."

19. Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the rider on the horse and his army. 20. But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. 21. The rest of them were killed with the sword that came out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.

someone knows their time is nearly up, so they are gathering their armies up, but they will be no match for the celestial army that is coming. The true celestial rightwings will take this earth back. They want you to think the coming army is from satan, but "they" are satans army on earth, because satan was already cast to earth. The battle was already fought and won by Christ.

what they try to scare us with as being aliens, are angels, elohim

Matthew 24:27 .....' For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.' ......We could stop right here and know from this verse exactly what the Bible second coming of Christ Jesus will be like. From the east to the west, every eye shall see Him coming like lightening in the sky.

Matthew 24:30-31 .....' And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.'

Matthew 24:37-41 .....' But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.' ....

Revelation 1:7 ....' Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.'

Acts 1:9-11 .....' And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.'

Luke 21:25-28

25 “Also, there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and [its] agitation, 26 while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 And then they will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 But as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift YOUR heads up, because YOUR deliverance is getting near.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-euFxTbfSzo

Shining in the silver moon,

Crystal ships are sailing to the sea.

Dreams the joys of pearls and gold,

And our angel's wings in flight unfold.

Fly, fly by my window,

Flyin' so free, yeah.



Yes, they fly, fly by my window.

Yes, those bright diamonds a-once were stone,

Rollin' down a silver stream.

Yes, those bright diamonds a-once were stone.



Sail on a silver wings of fire,

Sailing dreams beyond the silver moon.

In silver clouds that fly so high,

Live the dreams you search,

But can't find.

ablebodiedman Wrote:
It seems to me that the new world order is indeed preparing the world for a battle against Jesus Christ under the guise of being invaded by alien ufo's.

I think the world is slowly being tricked by a very clever and insidious deception.

Be very careful which side you end up rooting for.


Abe, do you really think God is going to permanently destroy people who are fooled by such a thing? What purpose would that serve?

And, how long would such a battle last, anyway? Who can go up against the power of Christ for more than a nanosecond?

Perhaps there are GOOD UFO's? Doesn't fit in with our perceived theology, does it? Or are there "angels" flying around up there too? How much do we really know about the hierarchy of angels, anyway?

UFO Contact - Former Canadian Defence Minister

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGyFWyNuF3s

Peace,
Jimmy C.

Prodigal Son Wrote:

ablebodiedman Wrote:
It seems to me that the new world order is indeed preparing the world for a battle against Jesus Christ under the guise of being invaded by alien ufo's.

I think the world is slowly being tricked by a very clever and insidious deception.

Be very careful which side you end up rooting for.


Abe, do you really think God is going to permanently destroy people who are fooled by such a thing? What purpose would that serve?

And, how long would such a battle last, anyway? Who can go up against the power of Christ for more than a nanosecond?

Perhaps there are GOOD UFO's? Doesn't fit in with our perceived theology, does it? Or are there "angels" flying around up there too? How much do we really know about the hierarchy of angels, anyway?

UFO Contact - Former Canadian Defence Minister

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGyFWyNuF3s

Peace,
Jimmy C.


Jimmy,

I don't remember saying anything about being destroyed.

Their are scriptures however, which indicate that many will be destroyed by this event.

If you read NewHearts post above there are two different reactions to seeing the son of man coming on the clouds:

1/ Beat themselves in lamentation
2/ Lift heads up because of deliverance.

Is the reaction simply a persons point of view?

1/ We are being attacked by aliens/ufo's
2/ Jesus Christ is here to save us.

Nanoseconds!

Thats very interesting. I actually did some calculations regarding the amount of time it might take for Jesus Christ to overcome the entire world. I posted it on this forum many years ago.

At that time the world population was considered to be around 6,000,000,000.

Here it is:

Quote:
So just how powerful are angels?

Here is some battlefield logistics to help determine this:

Isaiah 37:36 - ESV

36 And the angel of the LORD went out and struck down a hundred and eighty-five thousand in the camp of the Assyrians. And when people arose early in the morning, behold, these were all dead bodies.

1 angel

185,000 men

1 night = 12hrs (best or worse case depending on your point of view)

Here is the math:

185,000 / 12 = 15416.66 per hour
15416.66 / 60 = 256.94 per minute
256.94 / 60 = 4.28 per second

Thats just one angel !

So how many angels are there ?

Revelation 5:11 - KJV

11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

More math follows (maybe this is a science):

(10,000 x 10,000)+(1000 x 1000)=100,000,000+1,000,000 =101,000,000

Is that 101 million ? Someone please check my math.

101,000,000 x 4.28 = 432,280,000 per second

6,000,000,000 / 432,280,000 = 13.87 seconds

Therefore if they all came they have the power to wipe out the entire population of the planet earth in 13.87 seconds or less.

I know which side I want to be on.

Therefore before any human being decides they want to harm or oppress another they should carefully consider to who it is they will now be held accountable.

The scripture at Isaiah 2:4 indicates this will be the case.

Isaiah 2:4
4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people:



Thanks for the link to the video about the former Canadian defense minister exposing the UFO coverup.



In Christ

abe

May 22,2010

UFO Spiral in the sky seen and heard across Western Canada

http://www.theweatherspace.com/news/05-2...anada.html

New Heart Wrote:
May 22,2010

UFO Spiral in the sky seen and heard across Western Canada

http://www.theweatherspace.com/news/05-2...anada.html


Thanks for sharing this New Heart!


all I can say after watching the video is.... wow!


Matthew 24:29
and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.



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I counted 8 seconds from the the first visual explosion to the sound arriving.

Suggesting the camera was around 8 miles away?


Certainly looks like its burning as a lamp.


And the third angel blew his trumpet. And a great star burning as a lamp fell from heaven, and it fell upon a third of the rivers and upon the fountains of waters. 11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood.



In Christ

abe

There is another video of the same event taken from an airliner!

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In Christ

abe
"And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and FEARFUL SIGHTS and GREAT SIGNS shall there be from heaven." (Luke 21:11)


notice the very next thing the next verse says comes just before?
Luke 21:12

But before all this occurs, there will be a time of great persecution. You will be dragged into synagogues and prisons, and you will stand trial before kings and governors because you are my followers.

who has been disfellowshipped? Those who follow Christ, and have seperated themselves and only follow the Lord..

Mark 13:11 "When they arrest you and hand you over, do not worry beforehand about what you are to say, but say whatever is given you in that hour; for it is not you who speak, but it is the Holy Spirit.

The above scripture happens alot in muslim countries. There you can even be killed if you are a Christian.

Latest Earthquakes in divers places?

There is an event currantly happening you will not see on the news....The OCEAN FLOOR RISING BY 13 FEET PER DAY off coast of Austrailia...do a search and see.

you already remember the day we all witnessed and earthquake along the Pacific rim in the country of Indonesia.

http://news.discovery.com/earth/earth-me...laska.html

explains all the nightmares about lava we had when we lived in Alaska.

There is no need to fear these coming events. We should be happy its almost over. Just around the bend.

And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. Luke 21:28

In Christ,
New Heart
New Heart,

I have not been able to find this in any main stream media.

Looks like they are staying away from the story.

Unlike the Norway Spiral which everybody jumped on.

I think mainstream media are skeptical about this one.

In Christ

abe
I'm still convinced this is HUMAN technology.

Governments with budgets ranging into the TRILLIONS of dollars are not going to be relying on mere "nuclear" weapons and rockets ... those things are so 20th century :D

However, I'm sure it suits their purposes to allow people to BELIEVE they are alien beings flying around... and maybe they WILL pull the "alien invasion" scenario... I actually think that is at least 50% likely.
British Government releases UFO files

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1...files.html

UFO enthusiasts call on Obama to release X-Files

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopi...Files.html
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