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Hello my friends,

I thought I should start a new topic for this subject I brought up.

In my own person search for deeper understanding of the blood teaching I came to realize this point.....

Why?

Witnesses are taught that 'blood is a sacred SYMBOL that they are to have godly respect for'. Now what adds to this is the foundation teaching which this idea is based on by the witnesses. I would like to ask how many know the doctrinal reason they use for teaching  blood is a 'sacred symbol'??? It is not printed in very many places! However IF my memory serves me correctly it can be found in the large green JW history book. If someone could take a few mins and search for it that would be great!

If I error in what I say please correct me, but basically they made a very important jump with this teaching, by trying to link it to Christs sacrifice. They say that 'blood is a sacred symbol for Christs ransom sacrifice that they much have godly respect for'.

Well the first problem with this is that Jesus said the WINE is the symbol for his sacrifice, but he didn't say wine was now sacred.

Many christians believe the 'cross' is a sacred symbol they must have godly respect for because they view it as linked to Christs sacrifice also.....

Is there a difference between a 'sacred symbol' and an Idol? What makes something and Idol??

Well that's enough for now,

Looking forwards to hearing your feed back on this :read:

Digging

Here is something I found.

*** w67 12/1 pp. 726-727 By Man’s Way or by God’s Way—Which?

GOD’S WAY OF USING BLOOD FOR ENDLESS LIFE

28 We, as Jehovah’s witnesses, advocate the saving of the world of mankind by blood, not by medical blood transfusions, but by God’s way of using it for endless life. When his Son, Jesus Christ, set up the Lord’s Supper, shortly before he shed his blood on the death stake nineteen centuries ago, he blessed a cup of wine and handed it to his faithful apostles, and said: “Drink out of it, all of you; for this is my ‘blood of the covenant,’ which is to be poured out in behalf of many for forgiveness of sins.” (Matt. 26:27, 28, margin [1950 ed.]) Jesus did not there change the wine into blood; and on drinking from that cup the apostles did not drink human blood, cannibalistically. Jesus’ words meant merely that the wine stood for his blood. By drinking of the wine that had that symbolic meaning the apostles pictured how by faith in Christ they would absorb, appropriate, assimilate the benefits of his shed blood. The shedding of Jesus’ blood meant the pouring out of his human life in behalf of the world of mankind.

29 Since the life is in the blood, Jesus blood had a value. It was perfect, undiseased blood, for Jesus had been born as a perfect human, through a virgin mother. His shedding his blood was in reality his laying down his perfect human life as a sacrifice to God in behalf of all sinful mankind. (1 John 2:1, 2) Jehovah God first transferred the perfect life of his heavenly Son from heaven to earth in order that he might partake of blood and flesh and might provide a perfect human sacrifice. (Gal. 4:4; Heb. 2:14, 15) Because Jesus died as an innocent man faithful to God, Jehovah God raised him from the dead on the third day. Because of being raised up as a spiritual Son of God, Jesus still retained the value of his sacrificed human life. Hence, in Hebrews 13:20, we read:

30 “The God of peace . . . brought up from the dead the great shepherd of the sheep with the blood of an everlasting covenant, our Lord Jesus.”

31 With the equivalent of his perfect human blood, that is, with the value of his human life, Jesus Christ ascended to heaven and appeared in the presence of Jehovah God.—Heb. 9:24.

32 Up in heaven Jesus presented to God the value of his sacrificed human life. He acted thus as God’s High Priest, just as it is written: “He entered, no, not with the blood of goats and of young bulls, but with his own blood, once for all time into the holy place and obtained an everlasting deliverance for us. For if the blood of goats and of bulls . . . sanctifies to the extent of cleanness of the flesh, how much more will the blood of the Christ, who through an everlasting spirit offered himself without blemish to God, cleanse our consciences from dead works that we may render sacred service to the living God?”—Heb. 9:11-14.

33 God specially sanctified the blood of animal creatures by having their blood applied to his altar in an atonement for the sins of ancient Israel. Likewise, God’s acceptance of the blood shed sacrificially by his Son as a perfect man, gives a special sanctity to human blood, in addition to the fact that the life of mankind lies in its blood. (Lev. 17:11, 12, 14) For that reason the using of this life fluid in medical transfusions under the pretext of saving lives is a desecration of blood. It draws man’s attention away from the fact, yes, belittles the fact, that God the Creator will save the world of mankind by means of the sacrificial blood of his perfect, faithful High Priest, Jesus Christ.

34 Knowing these vital Scriptural truths, we are under obligation to treat the blood of humans as well as of animals as something sacred. Transfused human blood can never give us everlasting perfect life on a paradise earth. Even medical records prove that such transfusions can kill us and our minor children. For eternal salvation to human perfection, obedient Christians, who look forward to an earthly paradise under God’s kingdom, will look to the shed blood of Jesus Christ, administered in God’s sacred way.

Warm Christian Love
Bangalore

Dear Bangalore & Digging!

Thank you for starting this topic and for the information provided.

The Watchtower Society’s stand and information is of older date and it would be nice if it will be possible to find newer information, if the Society officially and still look at the blood as sacred.

The reason for above is based at my personal experiences, since I have for some years ago talked with an Bethel Elder, based at the Watchtower from June 15, 2000, how it comes that derivates could be used, using this argument: "If a car is stolen, will you buy it in parts"

The question I received was that it was no longer the Watchtowers Society’s stand that the blood was sacred but the life was sacred represented by the blood. With other words, the blood is a metaphor for the life itself.

If above statement can be verified, it makes then much more sense why the Watchtower now allow tons of cow blood to be stored and used in form of Hemopure from http://www.biopure.com but rise a vital question to and how it can be in harmony with the Scriptures in Leviticus 17:13 where it comes forth, when a life has been taken, the blood shall be purred out at the ground, so to speak, the life has to be given back to God.

The whole problem with the Watchtowers ban and view on blood as sacred comes because they mix up the commandments in the Mosaic Law to the Jews with the recommendations to the Christians in the Greak Scriptures, even that they admit that every time the Scriptures talks about blood it is in connection with eating it and a blood transfusion nourish the body. They look at blood literal in Acts 15:29 and not as a metaphor for the life itself.

They make the same mistake at the disciples who left Jesus in John 6: 52-66 simply because they have taken the blood literally and not as a metaphor for life because there was no physical blood shredded when Jesus get crucified and died. His blood was simply an nothing else than a methaphor for life.

This is similarly with a person who kills the victims with poison, there is either a single drop of blood shredded, like and when Jesus died, but in both cases the victims blood have come over the killer, like the Jews and they have all become blood guilty, simply because the blood is a metaphor for life.

If we e.g. take an example when Jesus said in John 15:13, 14 and 1 John 3:16, where it comes forth that there isn't greater love that ones that gives their souls, for their friends, it has nothing to do with the physical blood but the blood is again a metaphor for life.

When we then compare this with Genesis 9:4 we can se that it says flesh the life, which is its blood.

9:4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

The commandments to Noah can even bee seen in the light of that people in Asia still eat animals, that still is alive and is a very cruel act which shows disrespect for a life, that was properly also one of the reasons for not eating the blood together with it for the Jews was a question of health recommendations, since blood easily becomes tainted without cooling facilities.

There can be a proof of circumstances for above in Leviticus 6:27, 28

6:27 Whatsoever shall touch the flesh thereof shall be holy: and when there is sprinkled of the blood thereof upon any garment, thou shalt wash that whereon it was sprinkled in the holy place.

6:28 But the earthen vessel wherein it is sodden shall be broken: and if it be sodden in a brazen pot, it shall be both scoured, and rinsed in water.

If the blood really was holy and everything that comes in contact with it should be destroyed, why shouldn’t a brazen pot be destroyed?

If it really was a question of that the blood was holy, why shouldn’t both the vessel of earthen and the one of Brazen be destroyed? It is fair to come to that conclusion that it was a question of a higher health standard and recommendation for the Jews.    

When we go back to Acts 15:29, it comes forth, that Christians should abstain from blood and from animals strangled.  

15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

If abstain from blood here was a question not to eat blood and not only a question of not being responsible for bloodguilt, commit murder or that anybody dies, why and then, within the same verse, recommend and mention to abstain from animals strangled.

The reason for not eating strangled animals was because of the blood, this admit the Watchtower in Insight in the Scriptures,  it was simply a question of not eating the blood, because the blood would be left behind in a strangled animal. It can therefore be concluded: When the Apostolic Decree recommend to absatin from blood in Acts 15:29, it was not because of eating blood, but not to commit suicide, kill anybody or be responsible for that another person die, and has nothing to do with eating blood, but loss of lives as sacred, not the blood as sacred.

So when the Watchtower Society use Act 15:29 where it comes forth: “Abstain from Blood” they use it in a wrong connection, because it has nothing to do with eating the blood and when they falsely and scientific wrong have stated that a blood transfusion nourish the body, it is pure nonsense, simply because if the body use the blood as nutrient we would all have been dead!!!!.

The blood injected replaces only what the blood was designed to do, and after a certain period of time, the injected and a persons own blood will be replaced by new generated blood cells and the old one will leave the body as waste. The Society admits also now, that the blood is an organ tissue and accepts that heir members get use of organ transplantations without threats, sanctions and being disfellowshipped and shunned.

There is for me no doubt that they have maked the blood to an idol or at least the blood has been a question of idolatry, since they are sacrificing their own and childrens lives, at the Watchtower organisation's alter of man made doctrines, like those mentioned in Jeremiah 7:31!

7:30 For the children of Judah have done evil in my sight, saith the LORD: they have set their abominations in the house which is called by my name, to pollute it.

7:31 And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart.


Christian love to all of you.

Talkactive.

Ps. The Watchtowers hypocrisy in the blood question can be seen and are documented at http://www.ajwrb.org

Ecclesiastes 1:18!
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
People can’t hear and carry the truth, because the lies are tickling their ears!

Jeremiah 8:8!
How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.

NB. It has to be mentioned that blood as medicine or any other medicine isn't good medicine, since there will always be side effects, opposite the healing Jesus and his disciples afforded, showing what to come, but in the meantime we have to deal with the life itself as sacred and be able to make personal decisions, to sustain the most important for Jehovah and each individual, the life itself in accordance to Galatians 6:5 and not being forced by threats and sanctions into a premature death, by man made doctrines, in opposition to what comes forth in 2 Corinthians 1:24 and 1 Peter 5:3! Like Tully and thousands of others haven’t been able to do:

http://www.energeticsolutions.com.au/tully_story.pdf

Among other places documented in Awake from May 22, 1994! Thousands have died......

Dear Talkactive,

You made the comment

"The question I received was that it was no longer the Watchtowers Society’s stand that the blood was sacred but the life was sacred represented by the blood. With other words, the blood is a metaphor for the life itself."

IF that is TRUE then where is THAT article saying such!!!
Ask and witness today if blood is sacred, and what will they say to you???

How did you hear this, in a letter or just talking to someone??

Digging

Here is something,

In the NWT Genesis 8 to 9 at the top of my witness bible it says
"Blood sacred, Rainbow covenant"

Digging

Dear Digging!

I fully agree with you and in what you have posted, latest what the answer will be from the Rank & File if you ask them about the blood, The watchtower Society have a official version and an internal, like the NGO. This information was from a Bethel Elder and not from an article, who is involved in the information service at a local branch office and I can assure you that this person is pretty close to me, but he will receive “Christian love” if he cooperate more, since I actively go against the Watchtower Society in the blood question, I'm not welcome anymore and can't get it on print from that source, but I'm working at it on another source.

If we take a closer look at the blood question, taken the Watchtowers last official stand in consideration, from Awake August 22 and KM from November 2006, it seems pretty clear to me at least, that they are fully aware of that the blood isn't sacred anymore, how and when does it then come that they now allow as much as  97 % of the red blood cells to be used, the haemoglobin, which constitutes approximate 75 % of the blood volume, without the water,  where the rest of  it is the donut ( the shield around the haemoglobin) makes 3 % and is the rest of the red blood cells, which totally makes 100 % of the red banned blood cells, to be used at their JW members.

By the way is 75 % of the non water part of the blood, a minor part of the blood volume, as they also declare officially from their information services?

In an earlier thread at e-witnesses I promised to come back with further information about the Society’s stand whether the blood is sacred or not, if ever possible and I will do my almost to explore the Watchtowers hypocrisy in the blood question, since they are blood guilty and responsible for thousands of peoples have and are going to die a premature death, based at their man made doctrines, which is a form of first degree murder. Religious freedom isn’t absolute.
  
As to your comment ask the Witnesses about NGO and you will only receive the official answer, it was only a library card, like in the paedophile cases, nobody have ever been threatened to be disfellowshipped if they continues to talk, for slander and if they intend to go to the authorities, so the organisation would be exploared. First when Bill Bowen, TV's and the newspapers announced that they have act against many Countries Laws in their hypocrisy, it took them more than five years to get the instruction out to the public and inform the elders in the Kingdom Halls that they should obey the higher authorities. I have copies of the communication with the local Branch Office, but unfortunately, the material is not in the English language.

Christian love to all of you.

Talkactive.

Ps. The Watchtowers hypocrisy in the blood question can be seen and are documented at http://www.ajwrb.org

Ecclesiastes 1:18!
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
People can’t hear and carry the truth, because the lies are tickling their ears!

Jeremiah 8:8!
How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.

NB. It has to be mentioned that blood as medicine or any other medicine isn't good medicine, since there will always be side effects, opposite the healing Jesus and his disciples afforded, showing what to come, but in the meantime we have to deal with the life itself as sacred and be able to make personal decisions, to sustain the most important for Jehovah and each individual, the life itself in accordance to Galatians 6:5 and not being forced by threats and sanctions into a premature death, by man made doctrines, in opposition to what comes forth in 2 Corinthians 1:24 and 1 Peter 5:3! Like Tully and thousands of others haven’t been able to do:

http://www.energeticsolutions.com.au/tully_story.pdf

Among other places documented in Awake from May 22, 1994! Thousands have died......

I have also an English version which is reviced 1984 where the same text appears but if someone have a newer version, revised after year 2000 it would be interesting to se what comes forth, after this year.

With love

Talkactive.

I was DF'ed in 2000 over this, so I no longer receive any mags etc, could you please share with me this article from the Awake and KM Nov/2006?? :detective:

Digging

Is there a new 'blood brochure'? Because there is a very revealing point to found in there also, if you notice farther in the back where it goes into the 'religious' reasoning notices how they they paraphrase Hebrews 10:29.

Digging

I guess the problem is that so many of you need others to do your thinking FOR you!
I don't care if the WBTS takes the same view of blood as the churches do; use it any way you want!

Once I saw for myself, I knew! :

Genesis 9:1-And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2-And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.3-Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. 4-But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

Leviticus 17:13-And whatsoever man there be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, which hunteth and catcheth any beast or fowl that may be eaten; he shall even pour out the blood thereof, and cover it with dust.
14-For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life thereof: therefore I said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall eat the blood of no manner of flesh: for the life of all flesh is the blood thereof: whosoever eateth it shall be cut off.

Acts 15:28-For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; 29-That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Don't eat, death penalty, abstain- are words I can UNDERSTAND!
Why the constant Finger-Pointing? Is it THAT hard to UNDERSTAND what the Spirit is saying here? Or- is it just something you don't want to accept? Regardless of what MEN say- FOCUS on what our Maker says!

Agape

Mad

Dear Mad!:funnyface:

I'm sure that all others respect you in your stand as I, but let me ask you a question, have you first been reading the Scriptures after you become an active member of the Watchtower Society?

Imagine that the Watchtower Society hasn't exist and or you never have been in contact with them or their members, would you still have come to the same conclusion and stand, I'm not talking for ethical or other reasons other than what they as the only religious organisation teach about the blood.

When it comes to Leviticus 17:15 the Watchtower Society and even you just jump lightly over the contents, wher it comes forth that a Jew and an Alien was allowed to eat a self dead animal and by a wild beast torn animal, only a ceremonial bath before evening, equal to and when Sauls men eat the animals with all its blood in and the matter was settled between the Jewish society and God!

It must have been and cover an emergency situation because the Jews got the Law as a higher standard for health and worship and was instructed to give an animal torn by a wild beat to the dogs, but now later on it was a sitation to eat and who will under normal life conditions eat a self dead animal, which could carry at the "bird flu" or a torn animal be infected with deadly bacterias from the wild beasts teeth and salive.

When we then go to Acts 15:29 it comes forth to abstain from blood but in the same vers it comes forth to abstain from animals strangled.

Why this double confect and sentence, since to abstain from a strangled animal was because it was a kill and because it wasn't bleed and not a question of health regulations, since it could be bleed before the blood coagulate.

Then to abstain from blood must then and as a natural fact be, not to be responsible for that another person die, e.g. by not placing a parapete around ones roof, let somebody die by refusing medical treatment and commit murder and then be responsible to bloodguilt.

It has not necessarely something to do with the physical blood, as a metaphor for life, because without blood no life, since you can end up in a situation of bloodguilt even when there is no blood shreed, e.g. when a murder kill the victime with poison!

You ask me questions about my relation with the a religious organisation and I answered you frankly, and the reason, why is among other things that you state that you are a very active member of the Society and just a thought comes up in my mind, if you really are, how can you be here, not because you aren't welcome, but and if some members of the Watchtower or your Congregation finds out that you are here or hear your stand in question of the by "God leaded organisation" you will be in serious trouble and possibily be disfellowshipped, kicked out of your religion as an apostate, in accordance to their procedures, what I know and are aware of?:seehearspeak:

Christian love to all of you.

Talkactive.

Ps. The Watchtowers hypocrisy in the blood question can be seen and are documented at http://www.ajwrb.org

Ecclesiastes 1:18!
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
People can’t hear and carry the truth, because the lies are tickling their ears!

Jeremiah 8:8!
How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.

NB. It has to be mentioned that blood as medicine or any other medicine isn't good medicine, since there will always be side effects, opposite the healing Jesus and his disciples afforded, showing what to come, but in the meantime we have to deal with the life itself as sacred and be able to make personal decisions, to sustain the most important for Jehovah and each individual, the life itself in accordance to Galatians 6:5 and not being forced by threats and sanctions into a premature death, by man made doctrines, in opposition to what comes forth in 2 Corinthians 1:24 and 1 Peter 5:3! Like Tully and thousands of others haven’t been able to do:

http://www.energeticsolutions.com.au/tully_story.pdf

Among other places documented in Awake from May 22, 1994! Thousands have died......
      

Talkative- as a Catholic I NEVER read the Bible. When JWs came to the door, I spent 2- almost 3 years reading it (and many anti-witness books) with only one goal; to prove them wrong- after all. a blood transfusion SAVED my life!
So- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NO<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<, all they did was encourage me to look at what the SCRIPTURES said, istead of the square pegs I was trying to pound into round holes!

I have not desired to talk to you any further-because, as in your words above, you simply do not WANT to accept what the scriptures are saying. but to find loopholes- that don't exist. We've been over this before.
Was Jehovah talking about strangled animals to NOAH?

Mad

Hi again Mad I don't know why you are sooooo Mad....:funnyface: I'm not blaming or accusing you or any single individual, so why don't you want to answer questions based at the Scriptures and the reality?

You mentioned the commandments given to Noah in Genesis 9:4 and have you seen that he also was given commandments to fill the earth, and by the way how does it come that the Watchtower Society allow their members to take anti baby pills and use condoms, will it not be a violation of the commandment to Noah.

So lets take it from the beginning, was the commandments to Noah in Genesis to abstain from which kind of blood, killed animals blood or humans or both?

It has to be taken in consideration that medical treatment with blood wasn't available, so it must have been to abstain from eating animals blood and so to speak give the life symbolic back to Jehovah, when a kill has taken place, not to be responsible for that any man die, with other words commit murder and be responsible of bloodguilt, so when it talks about man in verse 5, it must be humans blood as a metaphor for life because it can never have been Jehovah’s thoughts that it was meant to and be possible to eat humans flesh as comes forth in verse 4?

So when we read verse 6 literally it means that Jehovah will resurrect all those who have killed somebody and due to that committed bloodguilt, simply because otherwise Jehovah or men can't shred their physical blood?

This is nonsense because there hasn't necessarily to be any drop of blood shred, either of a victims or a person responsible, since the blood is a metaphor for life and it is the life that is sacred and not the blood. Murderers will possibly not be resurrected they will never have their blood (read life) since their blood has been shred in the same manner as Jesus, both have died, the Romans killed Jesus and Jehovah took the murders life by age and will possibly never get the life back, the blood which reperesent the life and therefoer the blood is shredded as described so to speak.

9:4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

9:5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.

9:6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

9:7 And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.

In verse 7 it is also commanded Noah to be fruitful and multiply, can we accept verse 4 as eternal valid for mankind at all time but not what comes forth in verse 7.

Who has been granted with the rights to go against Jehovah's commandments as given to Noah, in the same chapter of the Scriptures? The Watchtower Society?

Pls. give us the answer based at the scriptures.


Christian love to all of you.

Talkactive.

Ps. The Watchtowers hypocrisy in the blood question can be seen and are documented at http://www.ajwrb.org

Ecclesiastes 1:18!
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
People can’t hear and carry the truth, because the lies are tickling their ears!

Jeremiah 8:8!
How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.

NB. It has to be mentioned that blood as medicine or any other medicine isn't good medicine, since there will always be side effects, opposite the healing Jesus and his disciples afforded, showing what to come, but in the meantime we have to deal with the life itself as sacred and be able to make personal decisions, to sustain the most important for Jehovah and each individual, the life itself in accordance to Galatians 6:5 and not being forced by threats and sanctions into a premature death, by man made doctrines, in opposition to what comes forth in 2 Corinthians 1:24 and 1 Peter 5:3! Like Tully and thousands of others haven’t been able to do:

http://www.energeticsolutions.com.au/tully_story.pdf

Among other places documented in Awake from May 22, 1994! Thousands have died......

As I said, T, we've been over this before!
Blood is far more than "a metaphor for life ", as you put it!

Would God have people executed for a METAPHOR?
Would the Spirit command to abstain from a METAPHOR?
Yes, blood is used as a - YES- METAPHOR, as MANY other things are!

(I'm beginning to suspect YOU'RE just a Metaphor!)

Well, the BLOOD (see- metaphor!) is on your head if you eat, drink,transfuse, or smoke blood, T!

Abstain from the metaphor!

Mad

Did you get a spiritual experience or vision or was it because you took the letters in Scriptures litteral and the Witnesses didn't pinned out how it should be understand instead of understanding principles as Jesus teach us to do by nailing the Law to the Cross? John 20:24, 25! Colossians 2:14!

This has been answered in my previouly post to you and I'm waiting for your reply.

So these verse was ment not to be canibals, eat humans????

So Paul was an oppostate since he allow the Christians to eat meat offered to idols? 1 Corinthians 8:4!

Stangled animals was in accodance to your view only mentioned to underline what already has been said, abstain from humans blood? So abstain from blood was meant not to be cannibals, eat humans flesh with its blood and the other centense to abstain from strangled animals was to abstain from animals blood?

A jew and and alien who eat a self dead or torn by a wild beast animal has only to make a ceremonial bath before evening, Leviticus 17:15 and Saul did only make a sacrifice to Jehovah 1 Samuel 14:32-35 and the matter was settled between Jehovah and the Jewish society. Why are you putting something into situations where blood has been and can be eaten, which doesn't exist.

Is it because you have something left from the Catholics with eternal punishment and a very cruel God who burn people in hell and punishment for ever and no possibility to repent, unless you happend to end up in procatorium and them maybe.....?

By the way what did Jesus say to the woman who makes him ceremonial unclean, due to her bleadings? Did he act like the Scribes and Pharisees and as you indicate, or does he say to the woman, Daughter your faith has cured you? Jesus said also, those who have seen me have seen the Father, so why this legalistic view as a Christian?

Doesn't that mean that you believe we shall go beyond what the head of our Christian belief show us of examples and teach, but rather believe a religous organisation, which you deny without success, have interpret and put their doctrines over peoples heads with threats and sanctions, proven to be vrong in all their false propheties, 1914 and generation, 1925 and 1975, in the name of Jehovah?

How can the men behind the The Watchtower Society be reliable in their teaching and interpretations of the Scriptures?
Deuteronomy 18:20-22!   


Christian love to all of you.

Talkactive.

Ps. The Watchtowers hypocrisy in the blood question can be seen and are documented at http://www.ajwrb.org

Ecclesiastes 1:18!
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
People can’t hear and carry the truth, because the lies are tickling their ears!

Jeremiah 8:8!
How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.

NB. It has to be mentioned that blood as medicine or any other medicine isn't good medicine, since there will always be side effects, opposite the healing Jesus and his disciples afforded, showing what to come, but in the meantime we have to deal with the life itself as sacred and be able to make personal decisions, to sustain the most important for Jehovah and each individual, the life itself in accordance to Galatians 6:5 and not being forced by threats and sanctions into a premature death, by man made doctrines, in opposition to what comes forth in 2 Corinthians 1:24 and 1 Peter 5:3! Like Tully and thousands of others haven’t been able to do:

http://www.energeticsolutions.com.au/tully_story.pdf

Among other places documented in Awake from May 22, 1994! Thousands have died......