Christians & Conspiracy Theories
A CALL TO REPENTANCE
http://www.acts17-11.com/conspire.html
[note from admin: Sorry Mr. Blobby, but we can hardly ask that the "conspiracy buffs" among us refrain from using wholesale "cut and pastes" and then allow the anti-conspiracy folks to do just that. Anyone who wishes to read the material can go to the link provided by admin. It is word-for-word. -- love from admin:hibye: ]
This is the scripture I'm hanging my hat on these days:
"By smooth words he will turn to godlessness those who act wickedly toward the covenant, but the people who know their God will display strength and take action." - Daniel 11:32
I'm not positive on the actual application but I like the principle.  It is those who "know their God" that will be able to see through the "smooth words".  In my opinion our time is better spent knowing our God and his blessed son, Jesus then knowing all the ends and outs of the latest conspiracy theories.
(MSG) Ecclesiastes 12:12...
" But regarding anything beyond this, dear friend, go easy. There's no end to the publishing of books, and constant study wears you out so you're no good for anything else.
The last and final word is this: Fear God. Do what he tells you.
And that's it. Eventually God will bring everything that we do out into the open and judge it according to its hidden intent, whether it's good or evil."
And that's it. Eventually God will bring everything that we do out into the open and judge it according to its hidden intent, whether it's good or evil."
Reminded me of this:
"Do not be afraid of them, for nothing is hidden that will not be revealed, and nothing is secret that will not be made known." - Matthew 10:26
"... and the earth and every deed done on it will be laid bare." - 2 Peter 3:10
"Conspiratists believe not merely that an occasional conspiracy exists, but that this is the dominant theme of history, that an "unseen hand" is guiding the world inexorably to the whim of certain supra-rich and/or powerful individuals." Seraphim
 "Put on the complete suit of armor from God that YOU may be able to stand firm against the machinations of the Devil; 12 because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places." Paul
 “Look! I am sending YOU forth as sheep amidst wolves; therefore prove yourselves cautious as serpents and yet innocent as doves. 17 Be on YOUR guard against men;" Jesus
"All these things I will give you if you fall down and do an act of worship to me" Satan
9 "Be injurious, O YOU peoples, and be shattered to pieces; and give ear, all YOU in distant parts of the earth! Gird yourselves, and be shattered to pieces! Gird yourselves, and be shattered to pieces! 10 Plan out a scheme, and it will be broken up! Speak any word, and it will not stand, for God is with us! 11 For this is what Jehovah has said to me with strongness of the hand, that he may make me turn aside from walking in the way of this people, saying: 12 “YOU men must not say, ‘A conspiracy!’ respecting all that of which this people keep saying, ‘A conspiracy!’ and the object of their fear YOU men must not fear, nor must YOU tremble at it. " Isaiah
No problem but it wasnt an exact cut and paste and thus not totally word for word.I did modify it to a degree but oh well. I shall just have to redo it in my own words but its a shame as I would have said exactly the same things except for the modifications I made. The information I presented was an accurate reflection of my view on this matter and the information was valuable. I did think that the rule for copy and paste was a guidline only but my mistake. I certainly dont want to make use of wholesale copy and paste which I myself dislike. Just so people know this is the only copy and paste I have done to any degree and all else I have written on this site was my own.However it does raise the question of how would one write down ideas exactly the same as someone else without it being considered copy and paste.
By the way im not an "anti conspiracy buff" I just dont think the way it is viewed by many Christians is correct for Christians. It is not as simple as an anti conspiracy buff or a conspiracy buff but option number three. The biblical reflection .
It would have been nice to have been asked privately about this before this action was taken as I would have removed or modified it my self if I had known there was an objection. Not good!
[ Apologies Seraphim.....but that was a HUGE cut 'n paste.....too big to read every word and compare. We're trying to encourage folks to provide links to sites along with their comments. Sorry that I missed your thoughts. It will help in the future if you can keep them separate. i.e...."I enjoyed this writer's view in the main, but thought he could have provided more scripture proofs such as...etc. etc." ....that kind of thing.
We would love it if you would like to write an essay yourself on the subject. No problem if you wish to include a paragraph here and there from your source material either. love -- admin ]
No problem but it wasnt an exact cut and paste and thus not totally word for word.I did modify it to a degree but oh well. I shall just have to redo it in my own words but its a shame as I would have said exactly the same things except for the modifications I made.
Dear brother Seraphim,
Just a little info on "modifying" someone else's essays. I believe that this is against copyright law (please correct me someone if I'm wrong)
According to North American copyright law, as soon as something is published, be it written work, art or music, it becomes the intellectual property of its creator. It cannot be modified. That would be akin to "fixing" the nose on the Mona Lisa, or redoing the background on a Rembrandt.
Just thought I'd let everyone know since perhaps this is not universally known. Usually, authors do not mind you quoting from their work if you either get their permission or at least credit them as the source.
Love, Rez
That's a pretty good link. I enjoyed the article which I suppose is no surprise. If I may take the liberty of one brief quote, it pretty much sums up the whole thing for me.
"To point out all the failed predictions of Conspiracy Theory would surely fill the internet, since every Conspiratist has his own unique spin on the Theory. As a challenge to the reader--from what you know of it--has Conspiracy Theory ever been right? I cannot think of a single case: an election, Russia taking us over, predictions of economic collapse, Christians being placed into concentration camps, Soviet armies massing at the Mexican border, the UN becoming more than a venting place and whipping boy, etc. Can you?"
I will say that I attribute no evil motive to anyone that pursues the "Conspiratist" (what a great word!) point of view. In my opinion they are either pursuing an eternal search for mystery or simply trying to make sense out of things that don't make much sense to the ordinary man.
We're all blessed to be living at this point in history, with an opportunity to witness Jehovah retaking his Earth from it's evil onetime trustee.  The prophecies he has provided us with are vital to our survival into HIS new world order.  I find it extremely spiritually UPBUILDING to be able to use information leaked, whether intentionally or unintentionally, by his ENEMIES to help prepare for the coming trials and tribulations, not so much for personal salvation as for being a light to throngs of people so panic stricken that they will be "faint out of fear".  All of us here are part of a very, very small group blessed with this insight.  The vast majority around us won't have a clue.  Does anyone realize how EFFECTIVE our witnessing will be at that time?  EVERYONE will be looking for answers.  Especially the WITNESSES.  True, many will not like the answers.  But in order to provide an effective witness, it would be a good idea to find out exactly who the enemy is.  If you don't seek, you will never find. Â
The trained Bible student recognizes what fits into Jehovah's plan and what does not.  That doesn't mean that one should accept as fact a certain "vision" that some Freemason may have had 300 years ago, but when someone like Albert Pike maps out 3 world wars and has been precisely correct about the first two, should we discount what he says about number 3?  Should we hold it as Gospel?  No.  But it does fit right into Jehovah's book and opens up understanding to prophecies.
After all, a search on the net on the "King of the North" will lead you to an endless assortment of mind boggling wacky interpretations.  I once read a book about the Revelation by one very well respected Isaac Asimov.  The book is a fairy tale beyond fairy tale.  There's also a very well known "prophet" by the name of Nostradamus.  Trust me, you'll never hear me talk about him. Â
The true conspiracy theorist will pay attention to anything.  What I'm searching for as a Christian are things that will shed light on a very short period of time that increasingly has become the focus of much more of the Bible than I ever could have imagined.  And for good reason.  It is for the most part a 42-month period that will put an end to 6,000 years of Satan's rule. Â
What I'm searching for as a Christian are things that will shed light on a very short period of time that increasingly has become the focus of much more of the Bible than I ever could have imagined. And for good reason. It is for the most part a 42-month period that will put an end to 6,000 years of Satan's rule.
Jeshurun, bro, :hibye:
What if you were to learn of a conspiracy by our archenemy that would encompass at time-period twice that length...for the express purpose of ensnaring those who thought, because the great trib was over, that the kingdom was here?
More than you imagined? :thinking:
Love, Rez:giverose:
Jeshurun, bro, :hibye:
What if you were to learn of a conspiracy by our archenemy that would encompass at time-period twice that length...for the express purpose of ensnaring those who thought, because the great trib was over, that the kingdom was here?
More than you imagined? :thinking:
Love, Rez:giverose:
Hi Rez
I'm glad you brought that up, as I am quite suspectful the NWO's rule will parallel the 7 times of Nebuchadnezzar's lycanthropy illness. My thinking is that for the first 3 1/2 years the world will worship it as a savior, and then it becomes it's final Satanic manifestation, with it's Luciferian Doctrine, for all who worshipped it to see.
Agape
Lou
Gogh . Interesting point about this news report .
I dont think it proves anything though .
It seems more resonable to think that the BBC got some news reports or misunderstood those reports that the WTC7 building was about to collapse rather than it had collapsed but either wrongly reported that it had collapsed or got confused with reports that it was going to collapse . The fact that it was a live broadcast simply means that mistakes happen . Often when a story breaks there are what seem to be contradictory reports of what happened . However when the smoke clears those reports tend to get corrected . The news woman probably didnt even know what the WTC7 building even looked like and wrongly reported that it had collapsed .
What does it mean anyway if this report was part of the conspiracy ?
That the all powerful illuminati made a mistake? That the BBC and all there staff are illuminati? The fact that the WTC7 building actually did come down anyway as we all know (or am I a hologram) raises the question of why film a supposedly live news broadcast before the event and also forget to not film the WTC7 in that report? The only alternative is that the illuminati were so pleased with what they had done that they couldnt wait to tell the press about it and in their enthusiasm forgot to wait untill they had actually blown the building up. Of course the BBC are part of the plot to exsplain that so then that must mean that the BBC couldnt wait to tell people about how wonderfull their servants the illuminati were and stupidly told everyone that it had collapsed before it did and forgot to not film out of the window and the news woman then did a dance and danced out of camera shot to reveal the intact WTC7 building . Silly BBC why didnt they wait untill it had simply collapsed in reality before they reported it ! The reason is that thinking about the illuminati dulls ones sences. :thinking::D
Do not be afraid of them, for nothing is hidden that will not be revealed, and nothing is secret that will not be made known." - Matthew 10:26
Hi gogh
BBC report of collapse of WTC 7.........BEFORE IT COLLAPSED.
Thanks for posting those links! Here's a longer one, which also includes their initial report of the collapse of WTC7:
http://www.liveleak.com/player.swf?autos...=57253&s=1
And here's where one of the BBC editors tries to defend their corporation's prior knowledge... poorly, in my opinion.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/20...iracy.html
There are also 24 replies to his post to date, most of which ask some very intruiging questions, such as HOW the BBC knew that WTC7 had come down 20+ minutes before it did come down, WHY the BBC reporter was standing in front of a live scene of New York City, with WTC7 still standing!... and WHY the BBC lost the live feed with her just 5 minutes before it actually collapsed.
That's one big ooooops, I'd say gogh, eh?
But... doh... the BBC have gone and lost the live footage. Silly old, BBC.
Interpretum have a look at my last post .
A few days ago in the UK there was a news report about a train crash in Cumbria . The first report I saw suggested that something had been placed on the track . However later they said it was in fact a problems with the rails . Was there a conspiracy? What do you think?
What was that story called about the elephant and the three blind men ?