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Here's the definition in strongs.. for the word: Thousand

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G5507 chilioi khil'-ee-oy

plural of uncertain affinity;

a thousand:--thousand.

Ha!... the 1st definition means 'uncertain affinity'.. So, my guess, is the word.. is not as definate in meaning as the english word for Thousand..

The thousand years cannot be long.. as the beast and ideas.. have to still be fresh in the minds of people.. to resurrect it again.. sorry, it's so complicated..

Dear sis NewHeart! :happyheart: :friends:

THANK YOU so very much for starting this thread ...! :post:

I have been spending the last while now doing research on the word '1000' or 'thousand' and my eyes are beginning to be opened :shocked::confused: to some rather interesting ideas ... :thinking::read:

I am still in the 'research' phase and so I wouldn't want to even begin to make any kind of 'conclusive conclusions' ... for the more I study it seems the less I know ... ;):siskiss:

However, your inclusion of a scripture above was found in my research process and I thought I would like to make a quick observation and comment if I may ... :love:

So, often as witnesses we have KNOWN 'the truth' ... had all the answers that were supposed to be 'answerable' at this time in history ... and how very far off the mark has that proved to be ...

Maybe another good way to remind us to stay 'humble' and not to 'think too much of ourselves' (or our so-called 'understanding) :blush:

Anyway, to the scripture, a very well known one to us ... but one that I am now re-thinking of ... :thinking:

Ps. 90:4 ...

(ASV) For a thousand years in thy sight Are but as yesterday when it is past, And as a watch in the night.

(ESV) For a thousand years in your sight are but as yesterday when it is past, or as a watch in the night.

(CEV) but a thousand years mean nothing to you! They are merely a day gone by or a few hours in the night.

(New World Translation) For a thousand years are in your eyes but as yesterday when it is past, And as a watch during the night.

So here we see 'a thousand years' being described in TWO different ways do we not ...

As ...

A DAY
A WATCH

A 'day' would signify a 24 hour period

while

A 'watch' would signify a 4 hour period (the time of a 'watch in the night)

So, for us to perhaps think of a 'thousand' years as being a 'literal' 1000 year period ... maybe we need to do some research on it more, which I am now in the process of doing! :read::coffeeread:

For example, it is true as you say that the Greek word for 1000 is 'uncertain affinity' ...

And it would appear that it comes from the Hebrew word

Eleph or some translate it as Aleph

H505 אלף

'eleph eh'-lef

Properly the same as H504; hence (an ox’s head being the first letter of the alphabet, and this eventually used as a numeral) a thousand: - thousand.

What I have found fascinating about this word is that in all of its meanings there is some connection to what the 1000 year reign is all about!

First of all there is a 'head' ...

Jesus as King

H504 אלף

'eleph eh'-lef

From H502; a family; also (from the sense of yoking or taming) an ox or cow: - family, kine, oxen.

That we as a people will be 'tamed' or 'perfected' during this time and be under Jesus 'yoke' (which is light and kindly) and we can 'come together' as a united family with Jesus being our 'Eternal Father'.

As well as this thought ...

H502 אלף

'âlaph aw-lof'

A primitive root, to associate with; hence to learn (and causatively to teach): - learn, teach, utter.

Is this not going to be a time of learning and teaching for us? Are we not going to 'taught in the way in which we should walk'?

Anyway dear sis ... you have set me on a course like a hound dog on a 'scent'!

Just wanted to run some of my thoughts by ya ... :giverose:

I have some more stuff but I am still seeking to put my thoughts in 'order' both in my mind and on my computer! :P:funnyface:

Luv BR :sheepy: :bouncyhearts:

Hi Sis, BR

you stated "That we as a people will be 'tamed' or 'perfected' during this time and be under Jesus 'yoke' (which is light and kindly) and we can 'come together' as a united family with Jesus being our 'Eternal Father'."

I am of the opionion that His yoke is only light and kind during the time of the gentiles.
when they are finsihed he begins to RULE in the firmest sense of the word. his way and his way only. Hence the descriptive terms of "an IRON rod" I believe this to be the time for his arrival with the saints.
or somewhere very close to it.

I could be wrong about it but it seems to me that those who cannot be judged by other men are one in the same as those who have washed themselves clean while living in the time of the gentiles.
They are also one in the same with thoses that do the Judgeing of there fellow men. " I can find the scripture if anyone wished"
These are the ones that while under a light yoke pushed themselves to become christ like. while all others were as the foolish virgins and did not carry enough oil.
the weeping and gnashing is for these ones as they will be under the "iron rod" to be tamed as you put it. If I read correctly.
IT will be a torment to change from their selfish ways. Just like little children who want their way and throw tantrums when they don't get it.
A very firm and steady hand will be the guidance back to life is what I see.

I could be completely off so take it for what it is.

sorry to derail the topic if it becomes adsicussion we can move it.

Thought i'd just add this to the discussion...about 1000 years...:thumbsup:


" For instance, we see that when a thousand is used in Scripture it is most often a metaphor for an infinite number. (De. 1:11; 7:9, 32:30; Jos. 23:10; Job 9:3; Ps. 50:10; 84:10; 91:7; Ec. 6:6; 7:28; Is. 60:22; 2 Pe. 3:8). Some passages use a thousand goats, shekels or drachmas to symbolize wealth. When thousands of animals are sacrificed by Solomon and Hezekiah, the use of thousands stresses the vast number rather than the literal number.

I particularly like Num. 35:4, where the “city” of the Levites extended a thousand cubits beyond the city walls; a sphere of priesthood and grace. So if you inadvertently killed another person, you would be safe in a city of refuge as long as you are a thousand cubits from the city walls. Extended grace and a godly sphere of influence that encapsulated a city designated by God. Wonderful!

So if we now look at Revelation, the most symbolic book in the Bible, it strikes me as odd that some interpreters desire to keep a thousand literal when Revelation speaks of Satan being bound and saints reigning with Christ for a thousand years. (Re. 20:2-7.) The question is, as this is a highly symbolic book, shouldn’t we stay consequent with the majority of the Scriptures that use thousand as hyperbolic speech?"


...from Barend Delport....Facebook...;):P:thumbsup:

Hi New Truth, that's a good explanation.

It's hard to see how the adversary could be confined for 1,000 years beginning part way through the 1,000 year reign of our Lord and be released before it is over.

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