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Good evening everybody:

How 'bout some Ramblin' Man?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x28jaeyX2s

:whistle::whistle::whistle:

Carry on! :drinking:
sis

gogh Wrote:

Et de plus en Francais. Pour l'education il n'y a aucun horizon.

According to Space.com, the Universe is actually 156 billion light years wide:

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/my...40524.html

To summarize their explanation: because space itself is also expanding, when the universe was smaller, light would have needed less time to travel - in other words, a "light year" would not need to travel over the same distance as a light year today.

Quote:
"Think of it like compound interest." Need a visual? Imagine the universe just a million years after it was born, Cornish suggests. A batch of light travels for a year, covering one light-year. "At that time, the universe was about 1,000 times smaller than it is today," he said. "Thus, that one light-year has now stretched to become 1,000 light-years."


The above article was linked from Thunderbolts.info, here:

Faster Than Light: Part One
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2009/a...5light.htm

(This is not a creationist site, but a site devoted to the concept of an electric universe, which is gradually growing as a respectable and scientific alternative to current "Big Bang" orthodoxy).

As they explain, clearly the current orthodox theology of the age of the universe is based on Hubble's premise about redshift, that "redshift correlates with distance" - which may turn out to be a flawed premise.

I continue to remain baffled why so many Christians seem to have adopted Big Bang theology, based on relatively weak premises which can be looked at in more than one way.

I guess it's because, when it was first introduced, it replaced Steady State Theory, and it sounded much more like Genesis 1:1 - so the Big Bang was seen by Christians as the saviour of Genesis.

But quite frankly, Genesis 1 does not tell us specifically how He created the heavens and the earth, and nowadays there are much better models that do not rely on inventing fictional entities to take into account major flaws in the math - such as dark matter, and dark energy... which are needed in current models, to make the math have a chance of working. (These things have historically been indications that the main model itself is deeply flawed.)

What I'm surprised at is the general lack of interest in discussing anything other than Stephen Hawking theology. I'm just reading Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion, and even he says that proposing the existence of God (what he calls The God Hypothesis) is scientific. And this is from an athiest!

So what is wrong with looking at, and scientifically considering, alternative methods by which our universe could have come into existence? Especially as the Big Bang model seems to grow bigger and bigger holes, and requires more and more imaginary ("dark") entities, as science learns more.

Grand Unified Theory? :D Perhaps... but I think that will mean them having to re-examine the premises of their current theories.

"Space ...The Infinite Frontier"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haAhdtDmsOw

"...it's not rocket science...just say yes and we'll move on..."...grin.

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a quote: "Stromatolites, like these still found in Shark Bay (Western Australia), were in existence when the Earth’s oxygen atmoshphere was being created."

Oklo Fossil Reactors

http://oklo.curtin.edu.au/when.cfm

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FYI everybody:hibye:

"Missing Mass":

Aussie student finds universe's 'missing mass'
Fri May 27, 4:01 am ET

SYDNEY (AFP) – A 22-year-old Australian university student has solved a problem which has puzzled astrophysicists for decades, discovering part of the so-called "missing mass" of the universe during her summer break.

Undergraduate Amelia Fraser-McKelvie made the breakthrough during a holiday internship with a team at Monash University's School of Physics, locating the mystery material within vast structures called "filaments of galaxies".

Monash astrophysicist Dr Kevin Pimbblet explained that scientists had previously detected matter that was present in the early history of the universe but that could not now be located.

"There is missing mass, ordinary mass not dark mass ... It's missing to the present day," Pimbblet told AFP.

"We don't know where it went. Now we do know where it went because that's what Amelia found."

Fraser-McKelvie, an aerospace engineering and science student, was able to confirm after a targeted X-ray search for the mystery mass that it had moved to the "filaments of galaxies", which stretch across enormous expanses of space.

Pimbblet's earlier work had suggested the filaments as a possible location for the "missing" matter, thought to be low in density but high in temperature.

Pimbblet said astrophysicists had known about the "missing" mass for the past two decades, but the technology needed to pinpoint its location had only become available in recent years.

He said the discovery could drive the construction of new telescopes designed to specifically study the mass.

Pimbblet admitted the discovery was primarily academic, but he said previous physics research had led to the development of diverse other technologies.

"Whenever I speak to people who have influence, politicians and so on, they sometimes ask me 'Why should I invest in physics pure research?'. And I sometimes say to them: 'Do you use a mobile phone? Some of that technology came about by black hole research'.

"The pure research has knock-on effects to the whole society which are sometimes difficult to anticipate."


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Plus: 3D Map of the Universe:

http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oGdXG7G...X1K0001121
Hi sis Llee,
This sounds to have shades of Jimmy Durant! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q0Ce6Jjq...re=related
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