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The words that start in the middle of 1 Corinthians 14:33 and run through verse 35 may well be spurious additions to the Bible, for they say: ‘And as [is true] in all the congregations of Holy Ones; the women should remain silent in the congregation. They shouldn’t be allowed to speak out. Rather (as the Law says), they should be submissive. And if they wish to know something, let them ask their husbands [when they get] home, for it’s disgraceful for a woman to speak out in a congregation.’

The reasons why the authenticity of these words should be questioned are because:

1. There is no such injunction in the Law of Moses. And it would simply be out of charactor for Paul, who went to such lengths to tell Christians that they were not under the Law, to quote the Law as something that they should obey, and then to cite the Law as saying something that it doesn't say.

2. In the most ancient texts of this book, the words are not added in the same location, giving the impression that they were written as a later note.

3. The injunction flies in the face of God’s use of women in outstanding and prominent positions, such as judges of Israel and as Prophets.

However, the words at Colossians 3:18 (‘Wives; Always obey your husbands, since this is proper [for those who are] in the Lord’) are in line with other scriptures, and appear to be authentic.

Quote:
26What then shall we say, brothers? When you come together, everyone has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. All of these must be done for the strengthening of the church......
33 As in all the congregations of the saints, 34women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. 35If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.

36Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached? 37If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command. 38If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored.[i]


Hi Jim..

Firstly, one can note that in vs. 26 above.. 'EVERYONE' was admonished by Paul to speak for the encouragement of all.

I think it is not spurious but misinterpreted.. for instance..
"As in all the congregations of the saints"...Just saying here, that this is the way of all the congregations @ the time..

After Paul stated vs.. 34 and 35.. he then goes on the CORRECT them in vs. 36...like this:

36Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached?

This is clearly an outrage on the part of Paul. Also going on in vs. 37:

37If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command. 38If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored.

Paul saying here...that IF they ignore his counsel.. They will be ignored. Clearly, a plea from Paul to stop treating their women so bad.

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