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The Power of Position—At What Cost?

No one given position receives such except by power. And no one possessing such power is without conditions attached to it. The question remains though, from where does such power come? Something higher? And if it is from something higher, is it absolute? If not, then from where comes its power? And if its source is absolute, then how is it possible that those receiving such power are corruptible?

Of course there are those who would deny vehemently that corruption should ever come from this higher power. And why not? The world has its leaders and heroes and needs them to validate the powers given them. But how many know or even care that there are conditions attached to those given positions of power?

My summation is simple. Do not assume the position you have is without conditions attached. Right or wrong, eventually you will be compelled to do the bidding of the one giving you position and power.
"Anyone who loves his life loses it, but anyone who hates his life in this world will keep it to life eternal. [Whoever has no love for, no concern for, no regard for his life here on earth, but despises it, preserves his life forever and ever.]" John 12:25 - AMP
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smoldering wick Wrote:
The Power of Position—At What Cost?

No one given position receives such except by power. And no one possessing such power is without conditions attached to it. The question remains though, from where does such power come? Something higher? And if it is from something higher, is it absolute? If not, then from where comes its power? And if its source is absolute, then how is it possible that those receiving such power are corruptible?

Of course there are those who would deny vehemently that corruption should ever come from this higher power. And why not? The world has its leaders and heroes and needs them to validate the powers given them. But how many know or even care that there are conditions attached to those given positions of power?

My summation is simple. Do not assume the position you have is without conditions attached. Right or wrong, eventually you will be compelled to do the bidding of the one giving you position and power.


What positions of power are you relating to? And by what higher power? The only higher power we are to reach for is is the power to move mountains by the power of God alone and our faith in Him, from his living source from within us . This is the living truth, and the holy spirit within that moves us to speak and act. The Holy Spirit is the bridge to God within you. It is the part of your mind—the part of your Spirit—that is joined with the Mind of God. The Holy Spirit is the Voice for God and acts as a reminder to all of God's children of the unconditional love that God has for them.

God loves His children so much that He wanted His children to always know that they are safe, they are loved, and they are whole. God created the Holy Spirit as a way to ensure that God’s children would always know these things. God gave this Voice to His children, and this Voice is now a part of them. It is the eternal perspective of Truth, Love, and Reality that cannot be taken from God's children. It is the Voice of God instilled within and the ever‑present reminder to God's children of the Truth of Who and What they are and the Love their Father has for them.

By creating the Holy Spirit, God provided a way to bring His Voice into each of His children as they went out into the world so that they could always remember the Truth of Who and What they are. The Holy Spirit's function and purpose is to bring God’s Voice to each of God’s children, guiding them, directing them, loving them, and restoring their thinking to God's, remembering who they are.

Love:heartbeat:And Peace:cheekkiss:
to all my brothers and sisters,
New Heart

The ultimate source, is of course, absolute, and without remorse.
However, the creation possesses a spark within, a spark that could ignite a forest, if that creation only knew, the power imbued to him.
His power, if focused, by intent and passion believed, can move mountains, yes indeed!
The power within, with an intoxicating spin, can corrupt the mortal creation,,, absolutely, and without chagrin....
Oh, but when that power is tamed, nothing it seems, cannot be attained. It transcends time and distance and obstacle, even amazing the doubting moronical!
It is the secret long untold, that will eventually un fold, and fill the Earth with stories so bold that every eye can see, and every hand can hold.
We are more then what we think, being made, a little lower then angles, if only we would be, in sync.
The power comes not from one, but is gathered from all around. We are virtually swimming in the power, of the only Son....
If you believe.
.Peace to you sw

smoldering wick Wrote:
The Power of Position—At What Cost?

No one given position receives such except by power. And no one possessing such power is without conditions attached to it. The question remains though, from where does such power come? Something higher? And if it is from something higher, is it absolute? If not, then from where comes its power? And if its source is absolute, then how is it possible that those receiving such power are corruptible?

Of course there are those who would deny vehemently that corruption should ever come from this higher power. And why not? The world has its leaders and heroes and needs them to validate the powers given them. But how many know or even care that there are conditions attached to those given positions of power?

My summation is simple. Do not assume the position you have is without conditions attached. Right or wrong, eventually you will be compelled to do the bidding of the one giving you position and power.


Dear Smoldering Wick:hibye:,

I have responses, but don't know if I have the energy to dig and reply.

I'm going to think about this for a while and write back:heartbeat:.

There is something absolute and not absolute, that is my absolute answer for now:D

With Sisterly Love, Debbie

Okay, I confess that I posted this rather hurriedly and didn’t qualify it sufficiently. It was my mind wandering down some dark alley imagining how many people have been given position and who don’t question the true source of the power with which they were entrusted.

Having had position, I’ve always wondered how many really think about the conditions attached. The idea strikes me that if power was given Satan to rule the world, there are conditions attached there too.

So power comes from two major sources—the spirit of a world ruled by Satan and the spirit of Jehovah through Christ. Probably 99% of the world are either ignorant or could care less where their power really comes from but for the few who do care, they are probably walking a tightrope, trying to determine just what will be the price. Simple illustration: When someone is given a little job by the mafia, such receipt of power is conditional to his remaining to do bigger jobs at their beck and call.

During my almost 43 years as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses I served 25 years as an elder in various capacities. During that time I never considered the power given me was conditional—until I resigned. It was then I discovered how much influence I had had on so many and that I was only valued by my peers and superiors because I towed the party line. Oh yes I got into a little trouble from time to time when I disagreed with decisions made by my superiors. But later, as I sank deeper into oblivion of ex-eldership, I realized just how much I had been a slave to those above me (which was really paradoxical since I should’ve really been a slave for the lowly ones.)

Anyway, those were my wandering thoughts. But they kind of revolved around the idea: “If power corrupts then absolute power corrupts absolutely”—a saying that really negates the power of God, don’t you think? But we should also beware of that which seems absolute but which is Satanic.

Love,
:friends:
sw
XJWs and All That Stuff

The only decent XJW out there is the one who got the boot for trying to make a difference. Leaving anything you once believed in, while in a state of anger or wave of hateful speech, is not only stupid—it’s just plain unchristian. It’s like shooting the messenger, beating an already abused dog, or going postal against one’s fellow workers thinking that management will pay. Some people ruin their entire lives being angry.

Now an XJW might say, “But I’m not angry.” Is that so? Well I say, “Are you sure?” Why? Because anger issues from deeper places than our lips and our brain and the need to be right exceeds reason with all extremists. So, when you talk to diehard Jehovah’s Witnesses, do you feel any sort of bitterness toward their pathetic beliefs? I say 'pathetic' not because they are but that’s typically how XJWs view them. When they defend their stand on matters of neutrality or the blood issue, do you feel any hatred rise within—disdain, contempt or scorn?

Now I’m no XJW. And while I view much of what they say with a jaundice eye, I am about as X as anyone can be while remaining within the camp, albeit under the radar. So to any XJWs or fellow flyers under the radar, I say this: be careful—and remember that we once believed in blindness for good reason. Some of us even wondered (while still under the they-can-do-no-wrong drug) why some left. Did we not tar them all with the same brush of apostasy? But now that we are being enlightened, how much can we really say that we've learned? Remember the words to that old Joni Mitchell song?:piano::coolmusic:
"I've looked at clouds from both sides now,
From up and down, and still somehow,
Its cloud illusions I recall,
I really dont know clouds at all."


So really now, is it not the teaching we hate? not the person? Or do we just love to hate? Face it, there are millions of reasons for leaving the WT—as many as there are JW’s. But to me there’s only one good reason. It’s what all who remain hold on to when trying to make a difference.
Sw. I've bit my tongue so many times that I can't taste anything anymore. My only hatred would be if my coming out caused a rift between me and my familly, and it would!
I'm also concerned that during the G. Trib., many good people will have a hard time differentiating between loyalty to Jesus or loyalty to the WT, or some other religion.
Just prior to Jesus' second coming, the false Christ(s) (anointed one or ones), will be manifested, and will misleed many!
This is a scary thought! :coffeeread:

e-magine Wrote:
Sw. I've bit my tongue so many times that I can't taste anything anymore. My only hatred would be if my coming out caused a rift between me and my familly, and it would!
I'm also concerned that during the G. Trib., many good people will have a hard time differentiating between loyalty to Jesus or loyalty to the WT, or some other religion.
Just prior to Jesus' second coming, the false Christ(s) (anointed one or ones), will be manifested, and will misleed many!
This is a scary thought! :coffeeread:


Dear E-magine:hibye:,

Whoops! But, I gotta disagree with your process of thought.:D

1. You do feel resentment, we ALL do. I think that's SW's point.

2. Your quite convinced on the game plan, tsk, tsk. Not exactly in line with actual bible game plans. We can all break it down, beat it around, and then hit each other over the head with our personal feelings. Mine is: I don't know how its going to happen. Those who say they know almost EXACTLY how its going to play out are going above and beyond scripture. Hey, but most of them disregard scriptures that "don't apply" to their outlook.

3. JW's think they know the outcome, anyone that thinks they knows the gameplan is caught in the same trap.

4. I'm sure all answers will be given in live time. The emergency broadcast service has NOTHING on the broadcasting system of our Creator:heartbeat:

With Sis Love, Debbie

Dear SW:hibye:,

I actually was going deeper than XJW's when I read your post.

I was thinking along the lines of any individual who passes on any authority of using holy spirit. Whether pastors, elders, or anyone of us as individuals. We can be caught to say and react in a bad way, being caught by the spirit of another kind.

So anyone who carries on as a Christian is under subjection of what authority they are given. Some will do an accomplish more in their life and others will accomplish little. The point is to actively accomplish, but we may not know how much we were really responsible for.

My source of personal experience of trying to relate my point: raising children. Many, including myself, do not realize how much responsibility we are really responsible for. My choices and interactions NOW will affect a immediate to much LATER. And I didn't realize I would fail so miserably at something that I thought was going to be a piece of cake. I can pat myself on the back every now and then, but I do see where I am failing even though I pour as much as I can into my children. They have little and they have much, hope the mixture works out OK. I do think evil forces ARE trying to break down families as quickly as possible. Its part of socialization that has been happening for centuries, mostly since the Industrial Revolution.

Even though you are angling the bitterness and/or resentment of X-JW's (I personally try not to hold resentment because satan takes a spot in my heart, so I try to massage forgiveness, understanding that it can happen to anyone). Some XJW's can forgive (or say they can forgive) and they are feeling HATE and RESENTMENT. Now I'm not going to say that my heart is not blighted with my relationship with my mom, but its not about religion, even though religion has a play in her behavior. It is my mom's fault if she uses religion as an excuse to not be a good mom, no matter what religion she has. I forgive her, but still hold pain, with pain resentment can have a place to breed. And again, I try to massage forgiveness.

I'm sorry, I'm probably NOT staying focused.

We are ALL being pulled by both forces.

Hope I made my point. I'm over tired. I'm headed for a morning nap and then I have to work and study for an exam.

Love and Prayer to ALL of you, Debbie

smoldering wick Wrote:
XJWs and All That Stuff

The only decent XJW out there is the one who got the boot for trying to make a difference. Leaving anything you once believed in, while in a state of anger or wave of hateful speech, is not only stupid—it’s just plain unchristian. It’s like shooting the messenger, beating an already abused dog, or going postal against one’s fellow workers thinking that management will pay. Some people ruin their entire lives being angry.

Now an XJW might say, “But I’m not angry.” Is that so? Well I say, “Are you sure?” Why? Because anger issues from deeper places than our lips and our brain and the need to be right exceeds reason with all extremists. So, when you talk to diehard Jehovah’s Witnesses, do you feel any sort of bitterness toward their pathetic beliefs? I say 'pathetic' not because they are but that’s typically how XJWs view them. When they defend their stand on matters of neutrality or the blood issue, do you feel any hatred rise within—disdain, contempt or scorn?

Now I’m no XJW. And while I view much of what they say with a jaundice eye, I am about as X as anyone can be while remaining within the camp, albeit under the radar. So to any XJWs or fellow flyers under the radar, I say this: be careful—and remember that we once believed in blindness for good reason. Some of us even wondered (while still under the they-can-do-no-wrong drug) why some left. Did we not tar them all with the same brush of apostasy? But now that we are being enlightened, how much can we really say that we've learned? Remember the words to that old Joni Mitchell song?:piano::coolmusic:
"I've looked at clouds from both sides now,
From up and down, and still somehow,
Its cloud illusions I recall,
I really dont know clouds at all."


So really now, is it not the teaching we hate? not the person? Or do we just love to hate? Face it, there are millions of reasons for leaving the WT—as many as there are JW’s. But to me there’s only one good reason. It’s what all who remain hold on to when trying to make a difference.



You know where all that anger and bitterness lie sw? It's when you lose your WHOLE FREAKING FAMILY AND LIFE LONG FRIENDS BECAUSE YOU NO LONGER BELIEVE IN THIS RELIGION. :rant:

I say that anger and pain is justified.

But then again, you havent had to experience any of that because you have stayed and kept your feelings under the radar.

I respect those that have lost everything for following Christ and their conscience. We know that our reward is in the next life.

It must be like the feeling that you can never go home again.

"Get out of her my people."
"I respect those that have lost everything for following Christ "

A wise man once said, if you lose father mother sister brother for folloing meyour reward will be great.

or something similar.

I say If you have lost you best be wary. It 's called sitting on the fence.

Totaldismay Wrote:
"I respect those that have lost everything for following Christ "

A wise man once said, if you lose father mother sister brother for folloing meyour reward will be great.

or something similar.

I say If you have lost you best be wary. It 's called sitting on the fence.

Sometimes the fence is the wise place to sit when you are between the frying pan and the fire.

I have found that too many are following a Christ I do not know and I prefer not to know. The only Christ I know is He who follows the Father and I do the same.

Love,

sw

You mean perhaps many are following Antichrists?
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