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AS I was watching the passers by behind me today.

It struck me. We the way light travels allows for some wondererous things to happen.

I heard a theroy that if we could travel to the sun and back faster then light we would in theroy be able to see ourselves traveling. or at least an image of ourselves.

With that said This is for all the scientific minds and anyone else who is just cursious.

I know their are many theory's on how we have maybe multiverse and such.

But what if GOD the father is the center of which all things are.
We travel perhaps around him insome fasion either in a literal way or in a way in which I do not yet understand.

Lets just say that what goes around comes around. and evrything at some point makes it back to the starting point.

we have our focus in only one direction at a particluar time. what if GOD was able to put something like a peice of glass in front of us and aim it at a particular event on lets say the other side of the loop. we would be able to see a reflection of any part of loop that he wishes for us to see based on the angle of the glass. And it would be a very hazy image at that in in reverse which would make it even more difficult for us to see/understand.

It would be a true vision of the future if he chose to focus the angle on that part of the loop or sphere I am not sure. as it would be "ghost" of what had already occured even thou we have not gotten their yet.

I know this is out there. I just find it interesting and would like to discuss with anyone who is willing.
I also can liken it to watching a tire closley and it seems to spin backwards as well as a ceiling fan.

Yea I have to much time on my hands. LOL:help:

hi, frank. :hibye: that mind of yours does stay busy, doesn't it? :thinking:

i think mankind has been groping from the very outset to define, describe, and delineate reality -- "existence" -- with all means at our disposal. i have come to the conclusion that the problem we face is this:

we haven't yet experienced reality. actual reality will be here when the "real life" arrives. -- we ain't there yet.

the corollary to that (i believe) is that all of our efforts -- from the simplest personal attempts to grasp ... to the most advanced and sophisticated scientific efforts to understand -- are thwarted before they can even begin. why? because we are only acquainted with a counterfeit reality. to me, our efforts could be likened to a group of children trying to describe a monarch butterfly ... by observing an aardvark. :funnyface: [and i don't have anything against aardvarks.] :D but, i also think our efforts are not in vain. it keeps us occupied and helps us get through these tough times in which we live and it constantly reminds our creator that we really do want to understand all that he sees fit for us ... in time. in his due time.

keep right on doin' zzactly what you're doin', frank. you are and will be blessed. i often hearken back to paul's words that ... 'eye has not seen and ear has not heard' ... yet.

"hi, frank. that mind of yours does stay busy, doesn't it?"

Yea it is a curse.

Most people think I am HIGH all the time. for real. I am so absent minded it's not funny. I can be in a crowd and be absent.

but I have lottttssaaa laughs :funnyface:

Peace brother

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efforts could be likened to a group of children trying to describe a monarch butterfly ... by observing an aardvark.


iso.... you be a genius

Totaldismay Wrote:
"hi, frank. that mind of yours does stay busy, doesn't it?"

Yea it is a curse.

Most people think I am HIGH all the time. for real. I am so absent minded it's not funny. I can be in a crowd and be absent.

but I have lottttssaaa laughs :funnyface:

Peace brother


Hi TD! how far down the rabit hole are you willing to go?
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=10th...EU48-0a5r0

Well, if Einstein's theory of relativity is correct (and I suspect that it is), when God created the universe, He also created time and distance. Thus God lives where there is no time or distance, so He can see the beginning, the end, and into infinity. As one very wise man put it to me: "He sees us as though we are worms moving through our continuum, from the beginning of our lives to the end."

This I believe.
"He also created time and distance"

it also might be a cause and effect type of thing.

With things ever growing space and distance is caused. even if we are on the head of a pin for us the chasm grows.

And EM,
I watched it it might take me a time or five to get it alittle.

some of that twisting a bending is exactly what I was thinking.

if we are on one side of any space with the correct angle and mirror we could be shown the reflection of mostly any other part with some exceptions. HE does it with our eye's already why not with other things. the light enters and reflects onto the nerve or what ever it is and we "see" why not just take reflection of any other time and place so to speak.

Just some cool thought to me.
Imagine what would happen if the distance between the proton (the giving, emitting God Particle) and the electron (the selfish takers that we all are) suddenly disappeared. We can do this by imitating God, as a collective human race. When that happens, all is fulfilled.

I hate to say it, but the Watchtower hasn't exactly given us the whole story with this "paradise earth" idea. It is MUCH MUCH better than that. Remember, we humans only use 1 to 3 percent of our perceptive potential.

:heartbeat:
Jesh
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I hate to say it, but the Watchtower hasn't exactly given us the whole story with this "paradise earth" idea. It is MUCH MUCH better than that. Remember, we humans only use 1 to 3 percent of our perceptive potential.


Jesh

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Good morning Jesh
.Glad to see your still hanging in there:heartbeat:
Hey this paradise earth idea , is not a idea. its a sure hope.

How in the world would the Governing Body have any idea as to what paridise would be like.? They are so blind they already believe their Christ, and that the sheep inside are theirs. They refuse to turn them over to the true Shepherd.

Sept 15 WT study reads
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Without OUR assistance YOU would neither understand the full import of what YOU read in God's Word nor know how to apply it. (Matt. 24:45-47) - page 8

Talk about self praise, not only that but Lording it over the little ones.
( you can see why these study magazines are not for the public )
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Hebrews 11:1-2 (The Message)
Faith in What We Don't See
1-2The fundamental fact of existence is that this trust in God, this faith, is the firm foundation under everything that makes life worth living. It's our handle on what we can't see. The act of faith is what distinguished our ancestors, set them above the crowd. :read:

love ya Jesh ( ,got carried away for the moment.)

susanna /stayawake
Time and eternity are amongst my favorite topics. I often reflect back to a summer day when I was six or seven probing the question of how it could be possible that God did not have a beginning. That day stuck with me all these years and I muse on it often; I like to think that such a great thought was planted in me by the Eternal One as a way to seed my young brain to one day comprehend matters of faith.

One of my goals is to someday develop a mathematical formula that proves and quantifies how it is that God is eternal having no beginning, something along the lines of an E=MC squared type formula, where the math empirically demonstrates how this can be true to the minds of persons having mere temporal frames of reference. There is that Scripture that says that El Shaddai put eternity into the minds of men. Eternity - what a wonderful thing to be able to think about and gives us neat things to dream about and that helps juxtapose the strange reality we now live in.

As to how Jah can see the future, I read this sci-fi by Isaac Asimov years ago named the Foundation Trilogy. In this book the advanced beings of the future had an advanced mathematical formula and technology that when applied against eons of time and large masses of people could predict the future. While I’m sure I do not know how Jah can see the future, I suspect its something like being able to plug in variables (such as fallen man and demonic controllers) and be able to predict what the outcome will be. Evidently this is why Jah stepped into mankind’s affairs in Noah’s day and at Babel: he saw the trend then in place and knew where it would soon lead – to offset his own timetables for demonstrating beyond doubt that mankind alienated from their Maker would result in problems especially under despotic rule by Satan, and offset God’s timetable for laying the thousands of years long groundwork it would require for bringing the Messiah - that would give persons a real choice in their own eternal futures.

So in effect we are able to see the future when we read God’s promises in the Scriptures and that gives us the hope to keep on going. One of my “angled glass” methods along that line is to imagine myself ten thousand years in the future, and from that vantage point I’m reflecting back to the right now, remembering when I was sitting here writing this post, and reading the uplifting comments of my brothers and sisters. As I reflect “back” in time, I get chills thinking about how Jah and the Son took care of us even when disenfranchised in so many ways we were able to still have hope, and have it even more than we may have before because Jah infused it into us in a greater sense now given the changed circumstances of most. And I think about how we all were able to work together to get to the bottom of the twisted mess of this system of things, which in turn brings even more hope that nothing can get between us and God’s purposes.


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