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TODAY these things are happening

here there is a proof

http://bythebible.page.tl/Home.htm

with deep respect for our King, Jesus Christ,

rus v.

I had a look around the link above and particularly at the resurrestion of Christ. What I see is all the old WT dribble repeated over again and over again. There is no such thing as rising as "a Spirit" resurrection is a rising of "the Body" not the rising of a " Ghost/Spirit " all one needs to do is read the Bible to see that the false teaching of this.

John 2

19 Jesus answered and said to them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”
20 Then the Jews said, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?”
21 But He was speaking of the temple of His body. 22 Therefore, when He had risen from the dead, His disciples remembered that He had said this to them;[c] and they believed the Scripture and the word which Jesus had said.

This passage clearly has Jesus saying He would raise "His body" up in 3 days. He did it !!!and the discipiles Believed the word which Jesus said as do I.


Luke 24

36 Now as they said these things, Jesus Himself stood in the midst of them, and said to them, “Peace to you.” 37 But they were terrified and frightened, and supposed they had seen a spirit. 38 And He said to them, “Why are you troubled? And why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39 Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have.”
40 When He had said this, He showed them His hands and His feet. 41 But while they still did not believe for joy, and marveled, He said to them, “Have you any food here?” 42 So they gave Him a piece of a broiled fish and some honeycomb. 43 And He took it and ate in their presence.


John 20
24 Now Thomas, called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came. 25 The other disciples therefore said to him, “We have seen the Lord.”
So he said to them, “Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.”

( Sounds VERY Physical to me )

26 And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” 27 Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.”
28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”
29 Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”



As you can see Jesus didn't manufacture different bodies in order to be seen Scripture says it was " His Body " the words
"my hands" "my feet " " Handle Me " are proof, in all of Scripture there has NEVER been a person raised as "a Spirit"

Just ask yourself did Lazarus have a body? How about Job? What did he believe?



Job 19
For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
26
And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God


Were the prophecies wrong?

Acts 2

22 “Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know— 23 Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you have taken by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death; 24 whom God raised up, having loosed the pains of death, because it was not possible that He should be held by it. 25 For David says concerning Him:


‘ I foresaw the LORD always before my face,
For He is at my right hand, that I may not be shaken.
26 Therefore my heart rejoiced, and my tongue was glad;
Moreover my flesh also will rest in hope.
27 For You will not leave my soul in Hades,
Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption. 28 You have made known to me the ways of life;
You will make me full of joy in Your presence.’

29 “Men and brethren, let me speak freely to you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. 30 Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that of the fruit of his body, according to the flesh, He would raise up the Christ to sit on his throne, 31 he, foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor did His flesh see corruption. 32 This Jesus God has raised up, of which we are all witnesses.



The REALLY GOOD NEWS is that He will Physically return one day!!!!

Acts 2

9 Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel, 11 who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”

( They saw Him go and He will be seen when He returns!!!! )

BB:happyheart::heartbeat::happyheart:

Galatians 1:1,2
1 Paul, an apostle, neither from men nor through a man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him up from the dead, 2 and all the brothers with me, to the congregations of Ga·la´ti·a:

If Jesus wasn't a man what was he BB.

Jake

BB
I saw , you always have to posts long posts .
I don't understand your speech , I think is because of my (weak) english....
let you rest in peace,
rus v.

Rus... this only took me to the home page.. How does that answer the scripture? No article, just home page?

Friend,
I don't know how your pc is working
(and I am absolutely no skilfull person in tech... )
but mine, when I press on click , it is opening that page
let you try...

Hi Jake, I don't know why you ask that question to those verses which simply say that he ( Paul ) wasn't an apostle ( a sent one ) appointed by man/men like the false teachers but his appointment was from came through Jesus Christ and God the Father.

:happyheart::heartbeat::happyheart:BB

your spirit returns to God when you die, and you live again where Chrsit lives, especially those who believe with complete faith in the resurrection, and who are in Christ, meaning already having Christ live through them in union with him before death of the physical body.

"Before the silver cord is severed, or the golden bowl is broken; before the pitcher is shattered at the spring, or the wheel broken at the well, and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it."Ecclesiastes 12:5-7

Love,
New Heart