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No this is not Four Weddings and a Funeral (too much swearing for my liking)
But we need to separate out all that happenend to Abraham.

There is no such thing as The Abrahamic Covenant.

The WT grandly waves its arms about and crushes together at least four promises, two covenants and a blessing.

I will incorporate links to the other post but my question is, what was the covenant in Daniel that Messiah the leader had to strengthen, and which promise was it in Galatians that was married to Hagar the old covenant and Sarah the new covenant?

http://www.paradisecafediscussions.net/s...tid=4913#9

Post nine deals with the four promises and two covenants.

http://www.paradisecafediscussions.net/s...tid=4913#9

The two covenants involved cutting.
Jehovah cut two deals with Abraham, the first was that all the land he could see would be his physical descendant's, the second was that He, Jehovah, would be their God. The descendants carried the sign of this deal or covenant on their bodies through circumcision.

The promises to Abraham entailed no conditions. They get stronger and stronger though. His seed will be as the dust particles (many but mortal): His seed will be as the stars (heavenly) His seed will be as the grains of sand (earthly): His seed will be [b]one by means of whom all the earth will be blessed (Jesus).

The two covenants pictured by Hagar and Sarah are connected to these promises and covenants given to Abraham. It was by means of him they gave birth.
They are reliant on him.

The mosaic law covenant, Hagar, I suggest is connected to the first covenant, the second covenant (of circumcision) and the first promise.

The new covenant, Sarah is connected to the last three promises, particularly the third, where Jesus is the promised seed and we only become Abraham's offspring, by becoming the offspring of Jesus. We do that by showing faith in Jesus.

There is no clause or conditions added to the promises, nor any expiry date.

vicky