The Bible says there was no death before sin, but many of the comments on this topic insist dead dinosaur bones existed before man had a chance to sin? And why on earth - with all life being plant eating before the flood - could man not have lived alongside the dinosaurs?
i find that thought utterly fascinating, truthpaste! thank you. like all great 'new' thoughts, i slap myself up the side of the head and ask "why didn't i think of that?"
Hi iso,
Without taking any dignity from your thread I also am speechless over the absolute brilliance of some of our crayons in the box! Why didn't I think of it too? Why ... this explains those dinosaurs they found in the stomachs of the woolly mammoths and saber-toothed tigers found frozen in Siberian oil sands!:shocked: Or was it tropical beach sands? :tanning: Whatever, I am humbled by Truthpaste's expert scientific gluing job so that we can all be edified beyond our wildest imagery! :drinking: Keep it up! We need more humour! :funnyface:
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I had enough of this kind of intellectual dishonesty when I was a JW.
Frying pan and fire come to mind :dontknow:
If you are worried about dishonesty then why don't you take a look at Lee Strobel's book "The case for a Creator" where some details facts are unearthed about the dishonesty of many of the books most of us have been given at school are exposed, >> here << is the most common example which most readers will recall from their education.
Evolutionary biologist and historian William Provine or Cornell University said that if macro-evolution is true, then there are five inescapable conclusions:
1. There is no evidence for God.
2. There is no life after death.
3. There is no absolute foundation for right and wrong.
4. There is no ultimate meaning for life.
5. People don't really have free will.
An interesting set of conclusions for a Darwinist!
No wonder the humanists want this 'theory' kept at the forefront of our all our education and entertainment facilities.
Hi Truthpaste,
Once again you ignore the point!
Your answers just raise more questions, and when you are presented with genetic evidence to show reptiles (lizards) and dinosaurs are quite different and one could not have grown into the other, you simply ignore the evidence and go, anti-Darwin. It rather reminds one of the JW's, Pavlovian, anti-Trinity, conditioned response.
You did not address the point I made about the Peregrine Falcon in any way one could consider was adequate.
If someone asserts the earth had an even temperate climate throughout, a few thousand years ago, my response is; what happened to oceanic circulation? An earth without a temperature gradient between the poles and the equator is like a body without a heart to pump its blood.
There are so many problems, for an earth with an even climate that would result in ecological disaster from such a climatic system; you would have to provide a whole suite of answers, before I could believe what is apparently unbelievable.
This is the problem, truthpaste; you rely on oversimplifications and when your suggestions, which you present as fact, are seriously dealt with you present your understanding of scripture as God's absolute truth.
You do not have a suggested creation mechanism and cannot demonstrate a recently created creature. Nor can evolutionists demonstrate macro evolutions mechanism, hence the suggested modifications to the theory of natural selection by evolutionists like, Gould and others.
I have no doubt there was a Creator God. As to the methods he used, I have no idea, no one really knows, but he was the gene manipulator par excellence.
I do not need someone who has very little knowledge of the natural world, because I do not have their simplistic approach of the YECs, to say that I am an evolutionist and therefore a non-believer.
Perhaps, eventually, dear Truthpaste, you will notice the horizons of your world do not go flatly to infinity and actually curve downwards from your view 12 miles away!
Derek
This is the problem, truthpaste; you rely on oversimplifications
If you call the Word of God an 'oversimplification' then yes you are correct. I am used to seeing far greater attacks on the authority of His Word but your amusing attempts to do the same will suffice for the moment. Like all other attempts in History they will fail and the honest seeker will have to conclude that where the Bible may not be a science text book - thank goodness as we would need over 500 updates each year - where it touches upon History, Science and many other topics it's statements are perfect and beyond the greatest created minds this world has ever seen. :thumbsup:
Derek, not only are you not on the same page, you're not even in the same universe! You can't win against truth in a tube! :funnyface:
Hi S.W.
You make me envious. You have a very penetrating wit, that is second to none! :) ;)
Derek
Derek, not only are you not on the same page, you're not even in the same universe! You can't win against truth in a tube! :funnyface:
Dear truthpaste,
You have missed your vocation. You would be a world expert in making corkscrews!!!! :) ;)
Keep smiling
Derek
This is the problem, truthpaste; you rely on oversimplifications
If you call the Word of God an 'oversimplification' then yes you are correct. I am used to seeing far greater attacks on the authority of His Word but your amusing attempts to do the same will suffice for the moment. Like all other attempts in History they will fail and the honest seeker will have to conclude that where the Bible may not be a science text book - thank goodness as we would need over 500 updates each year - where it touches upon History, Science and many other topics it's statements are perfect and beyond the greatest created minds this world has ever seen. :thumbsup:
Dear truthpaste,
You have missed your vocation. You would be a world expert in making corkscrews!!!! :) ;)
Keep smiling
Derek
This is the problem, truthpaste; you rely on oversimplifications
If you call the Word of God an 'oversimplification' then yes you are correct. I am used to seeing far greater attacks on the authority of His Word but your amusing attempts to do the same will suffice for the moment. Like all other attempts in History they will fail and the honest seeker will have to conclude that where the Bible may not be a science text book - thank goodness as we would need over 500 updates each year - where it touches upon History, Science and many other topics it's statements are perfect and beyond the greatest created minds this world has ever seen. :thumbsup:
I'm still smiling Derek, I hope you are too, Psalm 118:8 sums up my take on this subject, "It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man", if I had trusted Evolutionists in 1925, I would have had to rethink 90% of what I first believed, if I had been a Creationist in 1925 I could still believe exactly the same things and not one verified scientific fact would disprove what I still know to be true.