05-12-2009, 06:46 PM
"Religion is the process of man trying to achieve goodness, perfection, and acceptance with God by his own efforts. Christianity, on the other hand, is God taking the initiative and reaching for man." - (Hal Lindsey)
05-12-2009, 06:46 PM
05-12-2009, 07:25 PM
"Religion sucks." - (gogh)
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05-12-2009, 07:45 PM
John Wrote:
"Religion is the process of man trying to achieve goodness, perfection, and acceptance with God by his own efforts. Christianity, on the other hand, is God taking the initiative and reaching for man." - (Hal Lindsey)
This is so true. God sees everything we do, and he knows the secret person of our true heart. He reaches out his arm to those who know that no matter how many works we can do for God, we still remain pitiful, poor and naked, and we cannot attain knowledge from other sources.
We must admit that we cannot do anything outside ourselves, but learn to imitate our Father and his perfect fruitages, like a child imitating his daddy , striving to please him by being the child our daddy wants us to be. Fearing to hurt our Father, and to make him feel sad at heart, is becoming childlike. He can give us the eyes to see clearly, and teach us personally like a human daddy does. A child does not go to various teachers, and strangers to learn what their daddy wants them to learn, same with our heavenly Father, he wants to be the one raising his sons and daughters and be taught his ways. he gets jealous and grieved when we look elsewhere for truth, than from his hidden counsels from above. When we become proud, we lose his favor, and saying we can know the truth from outside sources, is prideful to God. Pride comes before a fall..and thats why the scripture tells us to beware of this. See with God's eyes.
Love,
Faithful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDPwtRY-G...re=related
05-12-2009, 07:48 PM
i know of a gentleman, -- a brother in christ, actually, -- who walked away from a multi-million dollar televangelizing enterprise. he was an intimate friend of oral roberts and billy graham, among others. why did he 'walk away'? because, as he said, 'we have it all wrong. we should be preaching the grace of god; not the threats of judgment.' one of the sayings for which he has become somewhat well-known is ...
'christ jesus didn't come to start a new religion. he came to do away with religion.'
needless to say, he is singing my song.
if i've said it once, i've said it a thousand times ...
religion is the number one tool of satan the devil.
:whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
05-12-2009, 08:23 PM
New Heart Wrote:
John Wrote:
"Religion is the process of man trying to achieve goodness, perfection, and acceptance with God by his own efforts. Christianity, on the other hand, is God taking the initiative and reaching for man." - (Hal Lindsey)
This is so true. God sees everything we do, and he knows the secret person of our true heart. He reaches out his arm to those who know that no matter how many works we can do for God, we still remain pitiful, poor and naked, and we cannot attain knowledge from other sources.
We must admit that we cannot do anything outside ourselves, but learn to imitate our Father and his perfect fruitages, like a child imitating his daddy , striving to please him by being the person our daddy wants us to be. Fearing to hurt our Father, and to make him feel sad at heart, is becoming childlike. He can give us the eyes to see clearly, and teach us personally like a human daddy does. A child does not go to various teachers, and strangers to learn what their daddy wants them to learn, same with our heavenly Father, he wants to be the one raising his sons and daughters and be taught his ways. he gets jealous and grieved when we look elsewhere for truth, than from his hidden counsels from above. When we become proud, we lose his favor, and saying we can know the truth from outside sources, is prideful to God. Pride comes before a fall..and thats why the scripture tells us to beware of this. See with God's eyes.
Love,
Faithful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDPwtRY-G...re=related
Dear New Heart:love:,
I really admire how much you meditate on our Creator and Jesus.:heartbeat:
Some of us are truly 'pathetic' always wanting more from our Father! And I say it with a smiling, laughing spirit. Some of us here have nothing else that we want to think about more. I hope you don't get mad at me for revealing this, you have more family than I do! You probably are so much like me, tending to the family and home with my head up in the clouds asking for spiritual guidance for every step and thought:hug:.
I feel help in so many ways, and yet, I want 'more' of the 'feeling', above all I want the 'peace'. I have so much more 'peace' than worries even though I have a heavy load. There is nothing more wonderful than feeling holy spirit lifting the burdens to the point where I can smile through some of them!
Thank you for all your prayers, and love and prayers to everyone out there:heartbeat:.
With Sisterly Love, Debbie
05-12-2009, 08:45 PM
Remember how we used to look at people that said, "I have my own relationship with God, I don't need religion."?
Wow! Now we are those people.
Love, Deb
Wow! Now we are those people.
Love, Deb
05-12-2009, 10:38 PM
Dear Debbie
I had to smile at your comment, because that's true we are among the few that don't need religion/
Religions are made up of groups that pick and choose what scripture they will use and those that they twist into what they want the scriptures to say. That's the reason for so many different denominations. Tracing this back to the first self appointed king which was Nimrod.
If these groups would leave scripture where it belongs todays Christians would all have the," same faith." Jesus did say to his Father in John 17:17 " your word is truth " Jesus was also known as the WORD of God.
his Fathers first creation. Col 1; 13-20
.That would take in the old and new testament.
The Hebrew OT representing the Father and the Greek NT representing Jesus Christ , his Fathers first creation. Col 1; 13-20 ,
Jesus said , "he was the way the truth and the life" John 14:6.
It was known and accepted by Christ followers in the first century that he was
"The WAY."
Saul before becoming Paul went after those who belonged to the" WAY "
Acts 9;;2-Acts 19:9 persecuting them, both men and wemon.
Those with the higher calling are the brothers of Christ, we who hope to live on earth will be the children of Christ, during his 1000 year reign. Isaiah 9:6
It will be thru him that we will get eternal life.
Well anyway that's my take on religion
and I am in complete agreement with Isoman
religion is the number one tool of satan the devil.
love stayawake:grouphug:
I had to smile at your comment, because that's true we are among the few that don't need religion/
Religions are made up of groups that pick and choose what scripture they will use and those that they twist into what they want the scriptures to say. That's the reason for so many different denominations. Tracing this back to the first self appointed king which was Nimrod.
If these groups would leave scripture where it belongs todays Christians would all have the," same faith." Jesus did say to his Father in John 17:17 " your word is truth " Jesus was also known as the WORD of God.
his Fathers first creation. Col 1; 13-20
.That would take in the old and new testament.
The Hebrew OT representing the Father and the Greek NT representing Jesus Christ , his Fathers first creation. Col 1; 13-20 ,
Jesus said , "he was the way the truth and the life" John 14:6.
It was known and accepted by Christ followers in the first century that he was
"The WAY."
Saul before becoming Paul went after those who belonged to the" WAY "
Acts 9;;2-Acts 19:9 persecuting them, both men and wemon.
Those with the higher calling are the brothers of Christ, we who hope to live on earth will be the children of Christ, during his 1000 year reign. Isaiah 9:6
It will be thru him that we will get eternal life.
Well anyway that's my take on religion
and I am in complete agreement with Isoman
religion is the number one tool of satan the devil.
love stayawake:grouphug:
05-13-2009, 02:00 AM
gogh Wrote:
"Religion sucks." - (gogh)
...:bubblegum:
...:bubblegum:
"I speak in illustrations ..."
sw
03-27-2011, 06:34 PM
Anchor Wrote:
WOW, Isomam,
Did you author all (part one and two) that you have written on this subject? If so, Brilliant! :thumbsup:
Did you author all (part one and two) that you have written on this subject? If so, Brilliant! :thumbsup:
guilty as charged, sis anchor. :whistle:
since this old thing (thread) hasn't been circulated for nearly two years, i thought i'd bring it back up to the top for newer ones on the board and to (hopefully) complement brother truthseeker's new thread on the subject.
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