http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=4...yYDw&hl=en
Thunderbolts of the gods is a video documentary about the electrical model challenging all of the peculiarities of modern science its current consensus reality that gravity is what causes the universe, galaxies, star systems and solar systems to remain so stable as they are. It gives an much simpler explanation for everything instead of convoluted explanations to make reality fit a theory.
Challenge yourself, your peers, your teachers. Participate in a revolution in science and human evolution. Watch this film and in an hour know more than most NASA scientists about the fundamental force that forms and sustains the universe (summary below). Visit:
http://www.thunderboltsdvd.com - to purchase the DVD and\or Thunderbolts Of The Gods 'monograph' (book), - to view higher resolution sequences from the film (with stereo sound), - to subscribe to a free newsletter that will keep you up to date on the latest discoveries in space and a revolutionary new interpretation of them. The Thunderbolts Project calls into question not only countless modern scientific assumptions, but also the billions of dollars of big-science government and corporate funding that continues to preserve and entrench questionable theories - elevating them to the status of doctrine - while systematically excluding legitimate alternatives that threaten the status-quo. Alternatives that may represent the future of science. The Thunderbolts Project offers remarkably simple explanations for 'black holes', 'dark matter', the electric sun, comets that are NOT made of ice, planetary scarring and many other 'mysterious' phenomena. It proposes that much of the currently observable phenomena of deep space can be intelligently explained by already known principles of electricity. High school students get it immediately. A doctorate in higher math is not required. This extraordinary new theory also redefines ancient history, linking rock art images carved in basalt 5,000 years ago with identical images found only in Hubble photographs of deep space or in photographs of recently declassified high-energy plasma discharge experiments generated in a billion dollar lab. The Thunderbolts Project invites you to participate in this revolution, to test and even challenge its validity, or, if finding it rational and intriguing enough, to contribute to its expansion and further evolution. Thank you
Nice post Brother SpiceAnt! :thumbsup:
Having spent 20 years as an electrical engineer, a plasma/electric universe explains it all for me, and eliminates the need to twist the first chapter of Genesis into some mystical esoteric fairyland of mustard-grain explosions, nuclear stars, black holes to other dimensions, and gravity-based government of the cosmos.....
The plasma gases that connect the heavenly bodies can be seen with infrared telescopes. It makes sense to me that God created the universe like a giant electrical circuit, and that electromagnetic forces (the free energy all around us that they don't want us to know about) are fully capable of keeping planets and even entire galaxies in their appointed order. Electromagnetism is silent and invisible, and offers no "speech" and I think this is exactly what God told us at Psalms 19:1-6...
"The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof."
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Jesh
Hi Spiceant, Thanks for bringing this to my attention! I easily embraced this new Plasma based Universe paradigm, and see it as encouraging to us people of faith.
Im gonna risk hell by saying "Racka.........."
Does that mean Seraphim, that you have tiny credibility gap with grasping such a revolutionary concept? :) ;)
There are no references to any scientific peer reviews of this theory!
Why has the theory not been peer reviewed if scientists put it forward?
Im gonna risk hell by saying "Racka.........."
Indeed Derek because the gap differentiating the event horizon and classical reality collide is such as a way so as to be against rational thought. Saying that however doesn’t exclude the possibility that the quantum phenomena called the twilight zone will some day expand the collapse of the wave function sufficiently to encompass detritus of thought phenomena to the point where nothing is real. Or to put it another way: if a man falls over his own shoe laces in a forest but no one of intelligence witnesses it, did he then make a noise?
No, Brian, he did not make a noise, because he fell into a worm hole in space and the magnetic field keeping it in place at the event horizon caused him to implode up his own anus.
Indeed Derek because the gap differentiating the event horizon and classical reality collide is such as a way so as to be against rational thought. Saying that however doesn’t exclude the possibility that the quantum phenomena called the twilight zone will some day expand the collapse of the wave function sufficiently to encompass detritus of thought phenomena to the point where nothing is real. Or to put it another way: if a man falls over his own shoe laces in a forest but no one of intelligence witnesses it, did he then make a noise?
[quote=Derek]
No, Brian, he did not make a noise, because he fell into a worm hole in space and the magnetic field keeping it in place at the event horizon caused him to implode up his own anus.
:rofl:
seriously,
"“Sit down before facts like a child, and be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abysses Nature leads, or you shall learn nothing.†— T.H. Huxley "
Alternative ideas are stymied by unquestioning faith in the “only possible†theory. For this reason, as history shows, most fundamental breakthroughs come from outsiders — those who “sit down before facts like a child.†Therefore, don't expect any "peer reviewed" endorsement from "gravity based" cosmologists. e-m
Hi e-m,
I do not subscribe to the, 'only one possible theory idea'. The whole history of science has been one of continual refinement with new concepts being tested out and new facts having to fit into the overall picture.
Some of Einstein's ideas may not be the whole truth, but his formula is still used when calculating the energy of linear accelerators.
Old Einstein couldn't accept quantum mechanics...that's why he said, "God doesn't play dice with the cosmos!" or something like that.....Oft quoted in the wrong context, I think.
What science has discovered is but a mere fraction of the total 'hidden well' of knowledge to be studied and understood.
However, untested speculative ideas strung together are not a way towards sound reason based knowledge.
One, certainly in engineering, and I think in science, would proceed on the basis of facts and reason else we finish up with stuff like the Chariots of the Gods.
atb
Derek
[quote=Derek]
No, Brian, he did not make a noise, because he fell into a worm hole in space and the magnetic field keeping it in place at the event horizon caused him to implode up his own anus.
:rofl:
seriously,
"“Sit down before facts like a child, and be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abysses Nature leads, or you shall learn nothing.†— T.H. Huxley "
Alternative ideas are stymied by unquestioning faith in the “only possible†theory. For this reason, as history shows, most fundamental breakthroughs come from outsiders — those who “sit down before facts like a child.†Therefore, don't expect any "peer reviewed" endorsement from "gravity based" cosmologists. e-m
Oh its not unquestioning faith in only one possible theory but common sense that incredible claims require incredible proof and there isn’t any. Plus I see no spiritual benefit in falling into the trap that everything man does is a conspiracy. It’s not true. Jesus paid the price 2000 years ago and it’s about time that people realised that Satan’s ability to control the earth was cut in half at that time. Hence Jesus said that he beheld Satan, fallen like a star from heaven. This partly but not completely occurred 2000 years ago. Fear of Pan Demonism and fear of Satan’s power is not the way Christians are supposed to oppose him. We now live in a world where Jesus and Satan rule at the same time.
Silly and supposed revelatory ideas that go against overwhelming evidence to make out that scientists are part of a paid elite of control chess pieces in Satan’s game is not only underestimating Satan but underestimating Jesus along with insulting many honourable men some of whom are Christians as well.
Einstein whom you quote in your signature was a scientific outsider at the time of his paper on the special theory of relativity and he believed in gravity. In fact his whole theory was based on it. At the moment I go with what the reasonable evidence suggests and that is backed up by much observational evidence accumulated over decades. Of course gravity or electricity matters not one jot to Jesus. Christians don’t get saved by knowledge of physics.
Hi big S!!
No need to get excited!!!
We are just pondering this new paradigm. And for once you don't know what you're talking about. This electric based theory is based almost solely on observable science, as revealed by the latest telescopes that can "see" the entire electromagnetic spectrum.
...."I see no spiritual benefit in falling into the trap that everything man does is a conspiracy. It’s not true. Jesus paid the price 2000 years ago and it’s about time that people realised that Satan’s ability to control the earth was cut in half at that time. Hence Jesus said that he beheld Satan, fallen like a star from heaven. This partly but not completely occurred 2000 years ago. Fear of Pan Demonism and fear of Satan’s power is not the way Christians are supposed to oppose him. We now live in a world where Jesus and Satan rule at the same time.
....Silly and supposed revelatory ideas that go against overwhelming evidence to make out that scientists are part of a paid elite of control chess pieces in Satan’s game is not only underestimating Satan but underestimating Jesus along with insulting many honourable men some of whom are Christians as well."
What does this have to do with this? :dontknow:
Well it may be that I don’t know what I am talking about. I will do some proper research on the claims on this new idea rather than speaking from my own prejudice which is I guess what I am doing. I do have off days so I shall relax and be more open minded. I must admit I haven’t looked at the claims properly in detail. I am the small s at the moment. I apologise for having a fleshly moment.
Hi e-m,
I am a simple soul. Just please answer a simple question?
Are the tides of the oceans caused by electro-magnetic fields or the gravity of the moon and suns alignment with earth, causing their fluctuating maxima and minima in cycles in phase with the moon?
NB. As you will know the highest tides are near the full and new moons when alignment takes place.
WCL
Derek
Hi Deric and Saraphim, :friends:
Simple is good!
I don't think the electric theorists are denying gravity, they are just saying there is a stronger force (electromagnetic) governing the Universe.
A child's simple magnet can over come the gravitational force between the Earth and a steel ball bearing.
The Sun's electromagnetic waves light up the Northern Lights, and cause disturbances in our electronic devices.
How is this electrical force being generated? Nuclear fusion (in the Sun) doesn't answer it. It's coming from the sub atomic level, which I postulate is YHWH's dynamic energy which fills all the apparent empty spaces in space. Cosmologists are now calling this newly detected phanomina "dark energy". There is much to learn!:read:
“The conformist propensity of social institutions is not the only reason that erroneous theories persevere. However, once embedded within a culture, ideas exhibit an uncanny inertia, as if obeying Newton’s law to keep on going forever until acted upon by an external force.†—Henry Zemel
http://www.holoscience.com/index.php
Hi e-m,
Now it is getting interesting:
Will the magnet take precedence over gravity if you tried to use it on a china cup full of water?
What keeps the moon in its position c.250,000 miles away from Earth?
What keeps the earth in its position 93 million miles away from the Sun?
Surely not their respective magnetic fields?
Radiation, is roughly divided into; ionizing (like x-rays) and non-ionizing (like radio waves)...I've worked on equipment that produced both these two forms of radiation.
The nuclear furnace, which we call the sun, produces a lot of ionizing radiation...we enjoy its visible spectrum and it makes life possible. It is thought the heat of the corona causes the stream of electrons, etc, to shoot out into space, helped on its way (accelerated) by the Sun's magnetic field.
Happily we have a defensive shield...the Earth's magnetic field.... but it does not stop 'currents' being induced in electrical circuitry and also the planet itself during times when the Sun is very active.
Of course, I would e-magine like you, all the quantum packets of energy in the universe are part of YHWH's dynamic energy.
WCL
Derek