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Children of the Wrath

A way to think and pray.

If we brothers could stand in a circle
Arm over arm facing outward
Our faces looking up above and over ourselves
Jehovah God
We open our throats only to you.
We children of the wrath
And now turn around and look within our circle

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The coming Logos/ Wrath of Jehovah God

The Word
The divinity of King Jesus Christ
For Jehovah was in humanity
We see him within the circle.
This is symbolic.

Hello Brothers and Sisters
May I have privilege to speak.
The lord Jehovah/ Jesus is our powerful healer.
Imagine this wonderful powerful being.
He who was above all creation was in our human condition.
We pray on our knees
Luke 5:12b “When he caught sight of Jesus
he fell upon his face
and
begged him,
saying: “Lord, if you just want to,
you can make me clean.”
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13 And so, stretching out his hand, he touched him, saying:
“I want to. Be made clean.”
And immediately the leprosy vanished from him.

Jesus is willing to heal all who come to Him.
He is willing to heal you.
I set my faith in agreement with your faith today
and pray this prayer for you:
May he heal your heart, mind and soul.
Gather us minds in here to You.
Away from all this corruption.

Inspiration, however, comes from God
The wrath of Jehovah

Jehovah God’s Holy Spirit accompanies us and precedes us in the inner altar of the Covenant and inner Tabernacle in our bodies.
In your mind and heart settle down in the Promised Kingdom,
The emergent Kingdom
Thoughts of
divine energy into earthly reality
The darkest before the dawn when Jesus comes
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And The Wrath through the biblical story line
Old way reconciled with new way

Romans 5:8 But God recommends his own love to us in that,
while we were yet sinners,
Christ died for us.
9 Much more, therefore, since we have been declared righteous now by his blood,
shall we be saved through him from wrath.
10 For if, when we were enemies,
we became reconciled to God through the death of his Son,
much more, now that we have become reconciled,
we shall be saved by his life.
11 And not only that, but we are also
exulting in God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
through whom we have now received the reconciliation.


John 17: 5 So now you, Father, glorify me alongside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was.

Amen in the faith
Cc
Wrath
Isaiah 59:2 No, but the very errors of YOU people have become the things causing division between YOU and YOUR God, and YOUR own sins have caused the concealing of [his] face from YOU to keep from hearing.
3 For YOUR own palms have become polluted with blood, and YOUR fingers with error. YOUR own lips have spoken falsehood. YOUR own tongue kept muttering sheer unrighteousness.
4 There is no one calling out in righteousness, and no one at all has gone to court in faithfulness. There has been a trusting in unreality, and a speaking of worthlessness. There has been a conceiving of trouble, and a bringing of what is hurtful to birth.

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Brothers and Sisters
A small colony of perfection
Is how I imagine you

Prophecy of the Children of the Wrath

1 John 2:18 Young children,
it is the last hour,
and, just as YOU have heard that antichrist is coming,
even now there have come to be many antichrists;
from which fact
we gain the knowledge
that it is the last hour.

John 2:21 But he was talking about the temple of his body.

22 When, though, he was raised up from the dead,
his disciples called to mind that he used to say this;
and they believed the Scripture and the saying that Jesus said.

1 John 4:2 YOU gain the knowledge of
the inspired expression from God by this:
Every inspired expression that confesses Jesus Christ
as having
come in the flesh
originates with God,
3 but every inspired expression
that does not confess Jesus
does not originate with God. Furthermore,
this is the antichrist’s [inspired expression] which YOU have heard was coming,
and now it is already in the world.
4 YOU originate with God,
little children,
and YOU have conquered those [persons],
because he that is in union with YOU is greater
than he that is in union with the world.


2 John 1:7 For many deceivers have gone forth into the world,
persons not confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh.
This is the deceiver and the antichrist.
8 Look out for yourselves,
that YOU do not lose the things we have worked to produce,
but that YOU may obtain a full reward.

Live the Kingdom
Jehovah is the messiah
Jehovah is the messiah

Amen in the Faith
Cc
“Little Children it is the last time”

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Heavenly Brothers and Sisters
We pray we have the Power and the Glory
That the Sovereign Lord Jehovah came as Jesus Christ
That God should come as one of us.
Flesh of our flesh, out of a human woman born,
our humanness he now owns;
We believe in King Jesus Christ his only Son,
our Lord; who was conceived by the Holy Spirit,
born of the virgin Mary'.

Giving on the one hand the Lord's earthly name,
'Jesus' which designates him as God's promised Saviour,
while at the same time including the title 'Christ'.
Messiah
The office of Prophet, Priest and King
Through which we discover what salvation entails:
Knowing Jehovah God,
being reconciled to him and submitting to
his saving, sovereign rule.
We Children of the Wrath
We can do no more than give a preview of God's plan of redemption,
We begin to appreciate why the Word/Logos take on a whole new significance when Both are occupied by the One who is not only 'Jesus Christ' but also,
God's 'only Son’, our Lord Jehovah out of the old testament'.
God's Saviour, the Jesus of history,
is none other than his Son Lord Jehovah from eternity!
The Son who not only entered our world in a unique way,
but did so by becoming the Person who is qualified
to bring the salvation Jehovah God has promised...

Sign of Immanuel
Isaiah 7: 14 Therefore Jehovah himself
will give YOU men a sign:
Look! The maiden herself will actually become pregnant,
and she is giving birth to a son,
and she will certainly call his name Im•man´u•el.

The heavenly angels long to look into these things.
1 Peter 1: 12 It was revealed to them that, not to themselves,
but to YOU,
they were ministering the things
that have now been announced to YOU
through those who have declared the good news to YOU with holy spirit
sent forth from heaven.
Into these very things angels are desiring to peer.

'The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us'
John 1:14 So the Word became flesh and resided among us,
and we had a view of his glory,
a glory such as belongs to an only-begotten son from a father;
and he was full of undeserved kindness and truth.
The eternal Logos is the Jesus expounded in the Bible that follows
the Son of God in human flesh!

Amen in the faith
Cc
He 2.14-17 14 Therefore, since the “young children” are sharers of blood and flesh,
he also similarly partook of the same things,
that through his death he might bring to nothing
the one having the means to cause death, that is, the Devil;
15 and [that] he might emancipate all those who for fear of death
were subject to slavery all through their lives.

Greetings CC

Re: "We begin to appreciate why the Word/Logos take on a whole new significance when Both are occupied by the One who is not only 'Jesus Christ' but also,
God's 'only Son’, our Lord Jehovah out of the old testament'."

Please compare your words/description of the relationship between Jesus and Jehovah; with this scripture:

Hebrews 1:1...

"God, having of old time spoken unto the fathers in the prophets by divers portions and in divers manners,
hath at the end of these days spoken unto us in his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the worlds;
who being the effulgence of his glory, and the very image of his substance, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had made purification of sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
having become by so much better than the angels, as he hath inherited a more excellent name than they."

This is how I understand the above quoted scripture:

YHVH spoke to his son Jesus.

YHVH appointed Jesus as heir of all things.

Jesus became the image (reflection) of YHVH.

Jesus sat down beside (at the right hand) of YHVH.

Jesus became better than the angels (as a man Jesus was "less" than the angels).

Jesus inherited a superior name than any of the angels (this inheritance was given him by his father YHVH).

Therefore your statement "the Sovereign Lord Jehovah came as Jesus Christ" is imo.....misleading. YHVH sent his son who became the exact refection of YHVH.

If I am misreading what you have presented, please offer a scripture referenced adjustment.

Christian love and appreciation,

gogh

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Colossians 1:17 Also, he is before all [other] things
and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist,
18 and he is the head of the body, the congregation.
He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead,
that he might become the one who is first in all things;

Dear Brother Gogh
Hello
Brothers and Sisters
More power to you.

Are you thinking Jesus had no prior existence or that he was unaware of his previous existence.
Has man ever crowned Jehovah as king on their own free will?


Hebrews 1:1
I can’t see how that can’t have reconciliation with the new.
Jesus was never an angel in the first place. He is the reflection of God Creation.
As Jehovah the Son in the OT and Jesus the Son in the new.


Hebrews 1:1...



1 God, who long ago spoke on many occasions and in many ways to our forefathers by means of the prophets, 2 has at the end of these days spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things.
3 He is the reflection of [his] glory and the exact representation of his very being,
and he sustains all things by the word of his power;
and after he had made a purification for our sins he sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places.
4 So he has become better than the angels,
to the extent that he has inherited a name more excellent than theirs.
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Hebrews 2: 6 But a certain witness has given proof somewhere, saying:
“What is man that you keep him in mind,
or [the] son of man that you take care of him?
7 You made him a little lower than angels;
with glory and honor you crowned him,
and appointed him over the works of your hands.
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2 Corinthians 4:4 among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers,
that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ,
who is the image of God, might not shine through.
5 For we are preaching, not ourselves,
but Christ Jesus as Lord,
and ourselves as YOUR slaves for Jesus’ sake.

Amen in the Faith
Cc

1 Corinthians 13:12 For at present we see in hazy outline by means of a metal mirror,
but then it will be face to face. At present I know partially, but then I shall know accurately even as I am accurately known.
13 Now, however, there remain faith, hope, love, these three;
but the greatest of these is love.

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Isaiah 9: 6 For there has been a child born to us,
there has been a son given to us;
and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder.
And his name will be called
Wonderful Counselor,
Mighty God,
Eternal Father,
Prince of Peace.
7 To the abundance of the princely rule and to peace there will be no end,
upon the throne of David and upon his kingdom in order to establish it firmly and to sustain it by means of justice and by means of righteousness,
from now on and to time indefinite.
The very zeal of Jehovah of armies will do this.

Brothers and Sisters

Who puts Jehovah God the wrath up as King in their Hearts and Minds and Souls.
Never having seen any intervention before and of their own free will.
And King Jesus Christ as their highest standard to attain.

But the Children of the Wrath.
The complete Power and Glory.

The Logos as Jehovah, The Logos as Jesus.
Isaiah 43:10 “YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah,
“even my servant whom I have chosen,
in order that YOU may know and have faith in me,
and that YOU may understand that I am the same One.
Before me there was no God formed,
and after me there continued to be none.
11 I—I am Jehovah,
and besides me there is no savior.”
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Matthew 1:23 “Look! The virgin will become pregnant and will give birth to a son,
and they will call his name Im•man´u•el,”
which means, when translated,

“With Us Is God.”

With us is God
Live the Kingdom

Amen in the faith
In Jesus name
Cc

John 20:28 In answer Thomas said to him:

“My Lord and my God!”

29 Jesus said to him:
“Because you have seen me have you believed?
Happy are those who do not see and yet believe.”

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Heavenly brothers and sisters
The light on your fingertip.
That spark
With free will
We worship and Thank God it was Jesus.
Look what power came down in david’s city that day.

Now we know his almighty power
One and the same voice.
The Word the Logos.

That God should be one and the same.

Lk 26-38; 2.1-7
Matthew 1:23 “Look! The virgin will become pregnant and will give birth to a son, and they will call his name Im•man´u•el,” which means, when translated,

“With Us Is God.”

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Luke 1:32 This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High;
and Jehovah God will give him the throne of David his father,
33 and he will rule as king over the house of Jacob forever,
and there will be no end of his kingdom.”

Amen in the faith
Cc

10 But the angel said to them: “Have no fear, for, look!
I am declaring to YOU good news of a great joy that all the people will have,
11 because there was born to YOU today a Savior,
who is Christ [the] Lord, in David’s city.

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Brothers and Sisters
Children
Little Jehovah’s

The Word

When you realize how strong he is within us.

When you realize The Logos is the Christ.
The Creator.

What wonderful revelations you will see.

We fly
Weight off your shoulders.
Feel top of the list.
By reading the Bible
By reading the Logos
We are
Saved by Grace
The final perseverance
1 Peter 3: 4 but let it be the secret person of the heart
in the incorruptible [apparel] of the quiet and mild spirit,
which is of great value in the eyes of God.

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1 Peter 1:23 For YOU have been given a new birth, not by corruptible,
but by incorruptible [reproductive] seed,
through the word of [the] living and enduring God.
24 For “all flesh is like grass, and all its glory is like a blossom of grass;
the grass becomes withered, and the flower falls off,
25 but the saying of Jehovah endures forever.
” Well, this is the “saying,”
this which has been declared to YOU
as good news.
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1 John 3:9 Everyone who has been born from God does not carry on sin, because His [reproductive] seed remains in such one, and he cannot practice sin, because he has been born from God.
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We children of the wrath
Amen in the faith
Cc

Matthew 7:24 “Therefore everyone that hears these sayings of mine and does them will be likened to a discreet man,
who built his house upon the rock-mass.
25 And the rain poured down and the floods came and the winds blew and lashed against that house,
but it did not cave in,
for it had been founded upon the rock-mass.

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SIGNS and WONDERS
0 to realize A new type of Son.
Never before heard of in this time.
Our time.
The Association with Lord Jehovah.
The Sign of the link up with the OT and the New
It is a Sign and a Wonder.
If our thoughts were accomplished by faith and faith remains,
then why wouldn’t they be a sign
If we can’t use our minds
signs and wonders would cease
If you don’t use your mind
Your mind gets rooted in tradition
The reason that those who disbelieve is because they do not see signs and wonders working in their midst. And yet the reason that they do not see them is because of such unbelief.

John 4:48 However, Jesus said to him: “Unless YOU people see signs and wonders,
YOU will by no means believe.”

John 5:19 Therefore, in answer, Jesus went on to say to them: “Most truly I say to YOU, The Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative,
but only what he beholds the Father doing.
For whatever things that One does,
these things the Son also does in like manner.
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This Body of ours follows.
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20 For the Father has affection for the Son and shows him
all the things he himself does,
and he will show him works greater than these, in order that YOU may marvel.
21 For just as the Father raises the dead up and makes them alive,
so the Son also makes those alive whom he wants to.
22 For the Father judges no one at all, but he has committed all the judging to the Son,
23 in order that all may honor the Son
just as they honor the Father.
He that does not honor the Son
does not honor the Father who sent him.

24 Most truly I say to YOU, He that hears my word and
believes him that sent me has everlasting life,
and he does not come into judgment but has passed over from death to life.


John 5:25 “Most truly I say to YOU, The hour is coming, and it is now,
when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God
and those who have given heed will live.
26 For just as the Father has life in himself,
so he has granted also to
the Son to have life in himself.

27 And he has given him authority to do judging,
because Son of man he is.

We do not find in the Bible anything that says that signs and wonders will cease. In contrast to such thinking Jesus said:
11Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me;
or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. 12I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.[2]
The difference here is faith. If you have faith in me, then my words are enough for you.
But if you lack faith in me then your unbelief would require evidence.
And this is how Jesus Christ worked.
He spoke His Word to the people,
but yet many still did not believe and so He performed signs and wonders so that they would.
He did this because of the fact that people lacked faith.
And there is no remedy for the faithless other than for them to see with their eyes.
You see, even though we have the completion of the scriptures today,
it does not guarantee that people will believe.
And then I realized that for some, our words do not suffice.
There are those who, because they do not believe,
must therefore have physical evidence before they will believe.
Think about it

We say these things in faith and belief.
To have a stronger faith in our
King Jesus Christ
Our Creator

Amen in the faith
Cc

Hi CC

You state: "We do not find in the Bible anything that says that signs and wonders will cease."

Scripture indicate some things will cease...

1 Corinthians 13:8 states:

" Love never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall be done away; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall be done away."


Christian love,

gogh

(1Corinthians 13:1...

" If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal.
And if I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
And if I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and if I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profiteth me nothing.
Love suffereth long, and is kind; love envieth not; love vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not its own, is not provoked, taketh not account of evil;
rejoiceth not in unrighteousness, but rejoiceth with the truth;
beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
Love never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall be done away; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall be done away.
For we know in part, and we prophesy in part;
but when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be done away.
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things.
For now we see in a mirror, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know fully even as also I was fully known.
But now abideth faith, hope, love, these three; and the greatest of these is love.)

Hi brother gogh
On another post you quoted how the H.S. acted to teach us all things.
PLEASE
Do you believe (supernatural) knowledge has been done away with? [whether there be knowledge, it shall be done away.] When was that?

and If there is difference between 'knowledge' and the Holy Spirit teaching us all things, what is the difference?
WCL
Derek

Speaking of knowledge, Paul writes,

When is the "then"?

How can Paul expect to "know fully" if "knowledge ... shall be done away with"?

Greetings, all.

Re: "what is the difference?" and "When is the "then"?"

Outward manifestations of holy spirit served great purpose in the past.

It seems purposeful (drawing exclusive praise to YHVH by means of our Lord and Christ, Jesus) will occure again...after "tribulation" yet before the "day of Jehovah'.

Joel 2:30...

" And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth: blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of Jehovah cometh.
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of Jehovah shall be delivered; for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be those that escape, as Jehovah hath said, and among the remnant those whom Jehovah doth call."


"For we know in part, and we prophesy in part;
but when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be done away."

Mark 13:21...

"And then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is the Christ; or, Lo, there; believe it not:
for there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show signs and wonders, that they may lead astray, if possible, the elect.
But take ye heed: behold, I have told you all things beforehand.
But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
and the stars shall be falling from heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens shall be shaken.
And then shall they see the Son of man coming in clouds with great power and glory. "

In the mean time; should these prophetic scriptures not serve as a warning?..." "And then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is the Christ; or, Lo, there; believe it not:
for there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show signs and wonders, that they may lead astray, if possible, the elect."


Christian love and appreciation,

gogh

We are no longer Children of Wrath

For we have been set apart as a special posession, to inherit our place prepared for us by Jesus.

For that is what we once were, but have been washed clean, by the blood of the lamb.

Praise God and the lamb, for we walk no longer as children of Wrath, but Children of God.


Eph 2:1 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins
Eph 2:2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience--
Eph 2:3 among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.
Eph 2:4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us,
Eph 2:5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ--by grace you have been saved--
Eph 2:6 and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,
Eph 2:7 so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.

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Dear Brother Gogh
The elect believe by faith alone.
Take my Word for it.
Signs and Wonders are for the unbelievers
Which there are billions on planet earth right now.
I think the Storms and Wild Earth Weather is the instrument Jehovah uses to execute his wrath.

Hi Leanne
Nice to hear from you again.
Jeremiah 31:3 From far away Jehovah himself appeared to me, [saying:]
“And with a love to time indefinite I have loved you.
That is why I have drawn you with loving-kindness.
4 Yet shall I rebuild you and you will actually be rebuilt,
O virgin of Israel.
You will yet deck yourself with your tambourines and actually go forth in the dance of those who are laughing.

Children of Wrath and Children of the Wrath are two opposite groups.
To explain the children of the wrath
Our wrath is Lord Jehovah God of the OT The Logos, with all our endeavors we develop a wait on him attitude and trust him to take out evil for us, whereas
Children of wrath don’t wait on anyone but themselves.
Isaiah 54:7 “For a little moment I left you entirely, but with great mercies I shall collect you together.
8 With a flood of indignation I concealed my face from you for but a moment, but with loving-kindness to time indefinite I will have mercy upon you,” your Repurchaser, Jehovah, has said.


”a small moment have I forsaken thee”
“In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment
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For in my heart
The Logos lives in Zion
Amen in the faith
Cc

Isaiah 8:18 Look! I and the children whom Jehovah has given me
are as signs and as miracles in Israel from Jehovah of armies,
who is residing in Mount Zion.