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PORNEIA

PORNEIA is a word that Jesus used at Mt 5: 32 “But I say to you, that every man that leaveth his wife [that every man that shall leave his wife], except (for) [the] cause of fornication, maketh her to do lechery, and he that weddeth the forsaken wife, doeth adultery.” This word is also used by Jesus in Mt 19:9 “I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."
The same word PORNEIA is used in the book of Revelation 14:8 “A second angel followed and said, "Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great, which made all the nations drink the maddening wine of her adulteries."
PORNEIA has also been used to describe how the kings of the earth also commit PORNEIA with the woman Babylon the great. So both the kings of the earth and the woman commit PORNEIA .

PORNEUO has a slightly different meaning in that it is used to express literal fornication Mark 10:19 says “ You know the commandments: 'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, do not defraud, honor your father and mother."

The New Testament Greek Lexicon
porneiða
1. illicit sexual intercourse
a. adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, intercourse with animals etc.
b. sexual intercourse with close relatives; Lev. 18
c. sexual intercourse with a divorced man or woman; Mk. 10:11,
2. metaph. the worship of idols
a. of the defilement of idolatry, as incurred by eating the sacrifices offered to idols

The Insight book ...page 642 says.” As shown in the article FORNICATION, however, the term “fornication” is a rendering of the Greek word por•nei´a and includes all forms of illicit sexual relations outside of Scriptural marriage. Hence, Jesus’ words at Matthew 5:32 and 19:9 mean that the only divorce ground that actually severs the marriage bond is por•nei´a on the part of one’s marriage mate. The follower of Christ may avail himself of that divorce provision if that is his desire, and such a divorce would free him to marry an eligible Christian.—1Co 7:39.

Notice they acknowledge all forms of illicit sexual relations outside of Scriptural marriage. They also say “the only divorce ground that actually severs the marriage bond is por•nei´a”

Are we to assume then that Jesus was including Spiritual fornication? By using the word por•nei´a Jesus is not disqualifying Pagan Idolatry or a prostitution with a religious Organisation (like the Watchtower) that would take over the role of the spiritual head. Yes this is a form of por•nei´a denoting unfaithfulness to one’s head, spiritual adultery or por•nei´a

The Head of every man & woman is not a religious Organisation but rather Christ, and only Christ.

Spiritual adultery

Jer 3: 7 And after her doing all these things I kept saying that she should return even to me, but she did not return; and Judah kept looking at her own treacherous sister. 8 When I got to see that, for the very reason that unfaithful Israel had committed adultery, I sent her away and proceeded to give the certificate of her full divorce to her, yet treacherously dealing Judah her sister did not become afraid, but she herself also began to go and commit prostitution. 9 And her prostitution occurred because of [her] frivolous view, and she kept polluting the land and committing adultery with stones and with trees; 10 and even for all this her treacherous sister Judah did not return to me with all her heart, only falsely,’ is the utterance of Jehovah.”

:confused:So Artcritic would the fact that the society got involved as an NGO and now with OSCE make them guilty of spritual pornea? In my opinion I think so. :cry:

You are so correct theway. The Watchtower is one of the daughters of the great harlot of Revelation . The Watchtower also takes over the spiritual role of any man who they consider an apostate ( in my case Dfs over Watchtower subliminal art). A woman who allows this to happen commits PORNEIA

Hi Artcritic

Re: "Yes this is a form of por•nei´a denoting unfaithfulness to one’s head, spiritual adultery or por•nei´a

1 Corinthians 6:9...has often been used to differentiate the religion of Jehovah's Witness and other religions.

"1Corinthians 6:9...

"You know that wicked people will not inherit the kingdom of God, don't you? Stop deceiving yourselves! Sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, homosexuals,....... will not inherit the kingdom of God."

"That is what some of you were! But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God."

Our Master Jesus states: “YOU heard that it was said, ‘You must not commit adultery.’ But I say to YOU that everyone that keeps on looking at a woman so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." (Matthew 5:27...)

Just as it goes without saying that Jesus words could also appropriately read (imo)..."everyone that keeps on looking at a man so as to have a passion for him has already committed adultery with him in his heart."

...His words could appropriately read (imo)..."everyone that keeps on looking kings of the earth so as to have a passion for kings of the earth has already committed adultery with kings of the earth in his heart."

Instead of viewing perverted relations as something grossly disgusting, some rely on their own reasoning or allow others to reason for them, instead of taking scripture to heart.

again re: "Yes this is a form of por•nei´a denoting unfaithfulness to one’s head, spiritual adultery or por•nei´a

James 4:4...

"Adulteresses, do YOU not know that the friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever, therefore, wants to be a friend of the world is constituting himself an enemy of God."

All immoral relations must be hated for what they are...bad/wicked.

(Romans 12:9) "Let [YOUR] love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is wicked, cling to what is good."

(3 John 11) "Beloved one, be an imitator, not of what is bad, but of what is good. He that does good originates with God. He that does bad has not seen God."

Thank you Artcritic for your expressions of faith (and observations...grin).

Christian love and appreciation,

gogh

I would like to point out that homosexuaols is not a valid traslation of the above scripture.

Really? What is?

effeminate" or "morally weak or soft" or "cowardly.

With reference to 1 Corinthians 6:9...

1Corinthians 6:9...

(ASV) "Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men,..."

Being effeminate or "soft" has nothing to do with homosexual relations.

Leviticus 18:22...

(ASV) Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

(KJV+) Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

(MSG) "Don't have sex with a man as one does with a woman. That is abhorrent.

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Re: "I would like to point out that homosexuaols is not a valid traslation of the above scripture."

Here are what seem to be valid translations of 1 Timothy 1:10...

(ASV) for fornicators, for abusers of themselves with men, for menstealers, for liars, for false swearers, and if there be any other thing contrary to the sound doctrine;

(ISV) for those involved in sexual immorality, for homosexuals, for kidnappers, for liars, for false witnesses, and for whatever else goes against the healthy teaching

(KJV+) For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

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1st Timothy 1: 10 and I Corinthians 6:9 both use the same Greek word (arsenokoites) which is translated differently in a massive variety of translations because no one really knows exactly what the word means. The translation of this word has ranged from masturbators to kidnapers, deepening on not only the translation but the period of time the translation was done. Homosexual is a modern word which describes an orientation. If the bible is translated to condemn someone for having an orientation which of itself does not necessitate any action whatsoever then the translation is a result of prejudice. If for instance people who masturbate will not get into the kingdom then we need to right off at least 95% of all people.

Re: "...because no one really knows exactly what the word means"

Here are a combination of words that seem to be straightforward enough...

Leviticus 20:13 is very understandable, yes?

“‘And when a man lies down with a male the same as one lies down with a woman, both of them have done a detestable thing. They should be put to death without fail. Their own blood is upon them."

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Homosexuality

(from: "Baker's Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology")

http://www.studylight.org/dic/bed/view.cgi?number=T348

A quote:

"...Some argue that a modern understanding of "natural" differs from Paul's and requires that we absolve those who discover rather than choose a homosexual orientation. These, it is argued, should be seen as victims, or simply different, and our definition of allowable sexual activity expanded accordingly. The major problem with this response is that it shifts the meaning of "natural" from Paul's notion of "that which is in accord with creation" to the popular notion of "that which one has a desire to do." But deeply ingrained anger does not justify murder, nor does deeply ingrained greed justify theft or materialism, nor does the deeply ingrained desire of many heterosexuals for multiple partners justify promiscuity. Desire in all of these areas, chosen or not, must come under the reign of Christ. The action in question must be considered not in terms of its source in the person but in light of the relevant biblical principles. These principles often involve denial of deeply ingrained desires, for the heterosexual who desires multiple partners no less than for the homosexual who laments the option of celibacy."

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:shocked:

This is really interesting... I'm learning something new here.. So, the scripture I Cor. 6:10...says 'men who lie with men', or in NIV, 'male prostitutes...

But yet it comes from the word 'porno'... as seen below, which pornia is a kin to it.. which has nothing to do with homosexuals..notice, it comes from the word 'to sell'.. so it may be talking about selling sex..

Wow, I knew that homosexual prejudice was wrong..:rant:


____Strongs_____

G4205 pornos por'-nos

from pernemi (to sell; akin to the base of G4097);

a (male) prostitute (as venal), i.e. (by analogy) a debauchee (libertine):--
fornicator, whoremonger.

I wonder if Jesus would have stonned them to death?