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This picture shows the mapping of both sides of the earth with color indication of the dating of the core samples of the land (granite continental plates) and sea floor (basalt level); Newest 10 million or so is RED, and as we go back in time orange, yellow, green, blue, with the oldest dating of the sea floor being 70 million years old. First thing I should point out is that the granite continental plates are measured to be 2 billion years old; That's over 28 times older than the oldest sections of the sea floor (basalt level)!

Where do fish fossils come from? From the land! In fact the basalt level never existed when the dinosaurs such as the T. Rex were around!

The next thing I will point out is that the granite continental plates fit together completely on a much smaller earth;

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How could the earth grow so much larger? From hydration, buoyancy, and osmosis.... from tons of pure water that was in the thermosphere falling to the earth! When material hydrates it expands; Liquid water is vastly heavier than gaseous water (lightest of all gases) and many material things are lighter than liquid water... thus liquid water sinks and the material objects 'float'; And place material in pure water and the osmotic pressure will force the water into the material and the material into the water. Thus the earth grew!!

How can we prove that there was tons of gaseous water in the thermosphere? Well insects breath through absorption of their skin. If there was tons of gaseous water in the thermosphere the atmospheric pressure would be quite higher. There are fossils of GIANT insects that use to roam the earth. But today our atmospheric pressure is too low to sustain the existence of giant insects because lower pressure means lower absorptive diffusion through the skin (giant fauna and giant dinosaurs would also experience a similar problem with breathing)! Also giant dragon flies and flying animals such as pterodactyls (given the aerodynamics of their wings) can not fly in our atmospheric pressure... the higher the pressure the easier it is for winged flight!

On a similar note but with respects to gravitation... a smaller earth with tons of water in the heavens would have a lower gravitational density. There are many fossils of GIANT dinosaurs that could not have even walked in our current gravity!

So, not only is it a necessity that there was significant gaseous water in the thermosphere to explain how earth grew and how giant insects could breath or how giant dragon flies and teradactals flew (because of the higher pressure), and even how giant dinosaurs could even walk (because of lower gravity)... it is also quite probable such existed there, as the thermosphere is thousands of degrees and could maintain the water in the gaseous state.

A note to be added here is that if there were such a large amount of gaseous water in the thermosphere the radiation intensity reaching the earth (in certain spectra) would be significantly reduced (possibly even types of radiation we are not aware of). Thus dating methods while preserving relative date relations are significantly off if they assume constant radiation intensity over time!

Also life span is correlated with radiation intensity (via destruction of our telomeres). There is also a telomere sequence directly in the center of one of our chromosomes (we are the only animal with this).

Thus man died before the flood from run away bodily fermentation because God would not let man eat of the fruit of the tree of life (coconut). But today man dies because his telomeres are being destroyed and possibly because the radiation is interfering with the reading of the telomere sequence in the center of one of our chromosomes; which potentially could be used as a template to regenerate all our telomeres at the end of our chromosomes (according to our original design).


The only way to fix the earth back to the original design is to 'destroy' it with fire... in other words boil that water out of the earth and put it back into the thermosphere. I am not going to explain how this will happen.... I just wanted to spark your interest... that what God says he will due is actually what God needs to do to fix the earth.

(2 Peter 3:10-13) . . .Yet Jehovah’s day will come as a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a hissing noise, but the elements being intensely hot will be dissolved, and earth and the works in it will be discovered... through which [the] heavens being on fire will be dissolved and [the] elements being intensely hot will melt! But there are new heavens and a new earth that we are awaiting according to his promise, and in these righteousness is to dwell.
If the flood happened around 2370 BCE (some 4378 years ago)... the earth itself was created around 120,576 BCE (some 122,584 years ago). A Christian friend of mine that spoke to an angel, said; the angel said he was only half a million years old.

If Adam was created in 4026 BCE (some 6034 years ago)... than human existence has only represented about 1.2% of an angels life. I am 26 so that percent would represent about 113 days of my life.
I guess that means we are all flys. with a 24 hour life span.
as far as dating the earth goes. it sounds like you subscribe to a belief of mine that we really cannot tell "how old things really are" because of all the missing variations of the earth from radiation to the canopy?
amongst other things?

IS that correct?

Totaldismay Wrote:
I guess that means we are all flys. with a 24 hour life span.


Ah, good point. LOL

We must become like maggots (babes). LOL

Wow what incredibly bad understanding of science.

Totaldismay Wrote:
as far as dating the earth goes. it sounds like you subscribe to a belief of mine that we really cannot tell "how old things really are" because of all the missing variations of the earth from radiation to the canopy?
amongst other things?

IS that correct?


We probably can get fairly close on the dating if we use the Bible's chronology with the relative dates (from science)... such as;

The flood date of 2370 BCE (4378 years ago) correlated with the creation of the basalt level "70 million years ago"...(corresponding to the Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction event)... which creates a relative frame work which we can also postulate that;

Adam was created in 4026 BCE (6034 years ago) which would correspond to "96.5 million years ago" placing his creation directly at the beginning of the Upper/Late Cretaceous. Which is a very interesting correspondence!!!

Adam died in 3096 BCE (5104 years ago) which would correspond to "81.6 million years ago" placing his death into the first sixth of the Campanian period.

Seraphim Wrote:
Wow what incredibly bad understanding of science.


An opinion that has no content or example for which one can respond making itself immune to refutation or meaning.

Indeed that is because I dont want you to respond. I dont want you to understand either or refute or accept it. It just is.

Seraphim Wrote:
Indeed that is because I dont want you to respond. I dont want you to understand either or refute or accept it. It just is.


I understand what you are doing. This way you look smart while not investing enough to get put in your place. A common tactic of skeptics, sophists, and atheists in general.

My main ministry has been to people like you... so I know what you are made of... hot air... Or as Plato put it "superficial manipulation of rhetoric and dialectic".

Here is an graph I found;



You can see from this graph that after Adams creation life spiked in biodiversity higher than it had every reached before!

You can also see the flood event as the last major mass extinction. An extinction event that brought biodiversity back to the level it was during Adams creation!
Re: "...I know what you are made of... hot air..."

"But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you also look down on your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of God;..." (Romans 14:10...)

Be nice, boy's.


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Hi Mars,
Interesting!

By what means did the explosion of biodiversity come about after the Flood?
atb
Derek

Derek Wrote:
Hi Mars,
Interesting!

By what means did the explosion of biodiversity come about after the Flood?
atb
Derek

The trend after the flood follows the same trend after Adam's creation.

Here is a guess at what caused the spike back to the original trend;

Only the land animals and birds had to start over from smaller numbers...

As the waters receded the land may have became wide open and abundant in vegetative food (because of such small numbers of animals to feed) and so the breeding of many of the animals may have went exponential until an equilibrium was created by their population density with the food sources...

The original trend it self though is from the producing of offspring... diversification.... or microevolution... of the animals God created at the time of Adam.

Hi Mars,
So you are thinking life blossomed in both biomass and biodiversity terms.

You will realize that predation often drives biodiversity.

How do you believe divinely ordained macro-evolution took place?
atb
Derek



HumbleGod Wrote:

Derek Wrote:
Hi Mars,
Interesting!

By what means did the explosion of biodiversity come about after the Flood?
atb
Derek

The trend after the flood follows the same trend after Adam's creation.

Here is a guess at what caused the spike back to the original trend;

Only the land animals and birds had to start over from smaller numbers...

As the waters receded the land may have became wide open and abundant in vegetative food (because of such small numbers of animals to feed) and so the breeding of many of the animals may have went exponential until an equilibrium was created by their population density with the food sources...

The original trend it self though is from the producing of offspring... diversification.... or macroevolution... of the animals God created at the time of Adam.

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