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Acts5v29 Wrote:

John Wrote:

Wibble Wrote:

Jehovah's Witnesses did not write the Bible.

Actually THEY did. But not the "ones" in Brooklyn! :D

TouchÃ©!:clap::clap:

Actually I considered that when I wrote it. But I came to the conclusion that Jehovah wrote the Bible.

gus Wrote:

What an interesting world-view you have. You seem to think that JWs are the modern-day equivalent of ancient Israel, picturing Israel in every way except when it comes to suffering consequences for their actions. What the watchtower fails to comprehend is that christendom isn't - and never was - the modern-day counterpart of God's chosen. They aren't "spiritual Israel" and have never laid claim to the honor. When was christendom ever "chosen"? Israel was chosen...and according to the watchtower, Jehovah's Witnesses are chosen. As I said before, be careful what you ask for.

The Israelites failed in their mission - and Jehovah succeeded despite them. Modern-day "Israel" must likewise fail if the types and anti-types the watchtower subscribes to hold any water. They both claim(ed) access to the kingdom and then closed the door. They both relegate(d) its king to second-class status. They both prevent(ed) access to the kingdom for others seeking it. They both prioritize(d) organizational "integrity" over God's will. Israel killed the Messiah when he arrived because he upset the applecart...and I'd imagine the watchtower would disfellowship him if he materialized today. Not to worry though. Jehovah still succeeds regardless of our little machinations.
Again, I'd be careful what I asked for.

gus

Gus ,
you said the truth !

It is exactly what the song of Moses says (deut. 32 ) :
4. He is the Rock, his works are perfect,
and all his ways are just.
A faithful God who does no wrong,
upright and just is he.

5. They have acted corruptly toward him;
to their shame they are no longer his children,
but a warped and crooked generation.

6. Is this the way you repay the LORD,
O foolish and unwise people?
Is he not your Father, your Creator,
who made you and formed you?

15. Jeshurun grew fat and kicked;
filled with food, he became heavy and sleek.
He abandoned the God who made him
and rejected the Rock his Savior.

Also it is written in exactly the verywell known chapter 43 of Isaiah :
26. Review the past for me,
let us argue the matter together;
state the case for your innocence.

27. Your first father sinned;
your spokesmen rebelled against me.
28. So I will disgrace the dignitaries of your temple,
and I will consign Jacob to destruction
and Israel to scorn.

Not only Isaiah , but also Jeremiah (chpt 17) says:

1. THE SIN of Judah is written with a pen or stylus of iron and with the point of a diamond; it is engraved on the tablets of their hearts and on the horns of their altars,
3. O [Jerusalem] My mountain in the field, I will give your wealth and all your treasures to the spoil and your high places for sin [as the price of your sin] throughout all your territory.

SO , it is very clear about whom God is speaking here !

Gareth , do you believe God's word ?

r.v.

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