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Adopted as His sons and daughters, (the children of God).

Whether you are thinking of leaving the Watchtower organization, or whether you have recently left them. Perhaps you are thinking of getting more information about them, because of wanting a better relationship with Jesus Christ. You can pray to make a first time commitment or a recommitment. If you do, you have made the right decision. God will forgive you if you mean it. Know that your relationship with Jesus Christ will bring radical and dramatic changes in your life. Describing this, the Bible says, "Those who become Christians become new persons! They are not the same anymore, for the old life is gone. A new life has begun!" (II Corinthians 5:17) Now that is good news! But more important, God has changed your eternal destiny. Instead of fearing eternal punishment in a Christ less eternity, you will spend peaceful eternity with Christ.
WHAT GOD HAS DONE FOR YOU
What actually happens when Jesus Christ comes into your life? First, He saves you from your sins and the punishment you deserve as a result of them. This is called salvation, or regeneration, and has to do with what takes place in your heart: God gives you new life. This means you are now justified, which means: “Just as if you had never sinned.” “Right with God.” You are now the righteousness of God through Christ. Not for what you or I have done, but by our faith in what Jesus has already done for us. This is the only condition that causes us to be at peace with God, (Romans 5:1). Just like the blood on the door post in the first Passover, God sees us through Hebrews 10:10, Hebrews 13:12, and Acts 26:18. 1 Jn. 1:9 keeps us sanctified.
The WT would shudder if it taught it’s followers were reading what justifies and sanctifies each believer,(Romans 5:9).
So justification has to do with your standing before God and includes the complete removal and forgiveness of your sins, (Ish. 1:18, 1 Jn.1:9). Think about it. When you receive Jesus Christ into your life, you are completely forgiven. God's Word tells us, "Brothers, listen! In this man Jesus there is forgiveness for your sins! Everyone who believes in Him is freed from all guilt and declared right with God [justified] - something the Jewish law could never do." (Acts 13:38-39) You see, In Romans 4:8,10, Paul was reasoning with the New Jewish believers there who thought the Gentiles must be ‘circumcised like them, to be saved.
Speaking of our sins, God says, "I will never again remember [your] sins and lawless deeds." (Hebrews 10:17) What a wonderful promise! This promise is to each believer, not to just 144000 believing Jews! Friends if that were true, then 1 John 1:9 would also be for only 144000 believing Jews. But that wouldn’t make sense now would it?
Justification however is more than just the forgiveness and removal of the guilt and condemnation that accompany sin. While God has removed your sins and forgiven you of them, He has also placed the perfect righteousness of Jesus Christ "into your account," so to speak. You don't have to earn it or try to achieve it. It is yours as a gracious gift from the God who loves you, (Titus 3:5). To understand justification more fully, read the following Scripture passages and notes below.
1. God Promises Us His Gracious Forgiveness (See I John 1:9, 1Jn. 3:7). The word confess means "to say the same thing as another" or "to agree with." To confess means that we are agreeing with God about our sin. We are seeing it as He does. We know that God hates sin. Therefore, to truly confess our sin means that we essentially feel the same way God feels about what we have done. After committing that sin, we will be determined to put it out of our lives and never do it again. That is true confession in the biblical sense. The reason many believers are not experiencing the forgiveness and joy they desire is because they have not yet truly confessed! Once we have met God's conditions however, we will know His gracious forgiveness, (Ish. 1:18). We may not "feel" forgiven, but we are. We have His word on it. Yet for many, many, years, the majority of Jehovah Witnesses were tricked into thinking they were not justified in the eyes of God. If you are justified, you are sanctified and if you are sanctified, you are a son (child) of the Living God.
Watchtower gave the majority of Jehovah Witnesses the following reason for abstaining from partaking of the Lord’s Table. How sad.
“The Jonadabs are not even justified, because the receiving of life everlasting depends upon their obedience within God’s organization and faithfully abiding there until the wrath of God is passed at Armageddon.” WT April 1, 1938 p. 104
The word “Jonadabs,” was at that time given to the ‘majority’(99%)of JWs within their organization, who were told that they could not partake of the Lord’s Supper because they were not yet justified as righteous in the eyes of God, However 1 Jn. 4:4,15, 1 Jn. 3:7, Rev. 3:20, (‘anyone’) corrects the WT organization. Each believer has received Jesus - Galatians 3:26, Jn. 1:12, 13, Col. 26, Eph. 1:13, ‘received.’) Their unbiblical teaching kept their ‘so called’ “Jonadabs,” (at bay) from partaking at their communion. This teaching was strange indeed, and this teaching continued. But if one is sanctified, they are justified, and these, are invited to partake!
In their book: “Life Everlasting In The Sons of God,” 1966. p. 391, “The Great Crowd are taught to believe they don’t receive justification promised in the N. T. The Great Crowd will not be justified or declared righteous either now nor then as the 144000 heavenly heirs have been justified while in the flesh”
2. God Has Balanced Our Moral and Spiritual Budget (See Romans 5:1-2)
When God justifies us. He does so by placing all of the righteousness of Christ to our credit. This balances the moral and spiritual budget for us. We now have sufficient "capital of character" to get on with the business of living. Staying obedient, (1Jn.1:9) ‘does’ assure one of their salvation!
Up to this point, salvation has been God's responsibility. From this point on, it continues to be His responsibility except that we are responsible for the wise investment of our "capital of character" - that is, we are responsible for living as God desires us to. It is as if your checking account were empty, but then someone made a $100,000 deposit. What you do with that money is up to you. We do have choices.
3. God Calls Us His Children (See Luke 15:11-32,)
This incredible story illustrates what happens when a person turns from sin and returns to God. First, notice that the father in the story did not give this prodigal son what he deserved - banishment. In the same way, we do not receive from God what we deserve - punishment for sin. Second, the young man was given what he did not deserve - the rights and privileges of full sonship. Likewise, although we are not worthy to be called children of God, he calls us sons and daughters. In summary, He doesn't give us what we deserve (judgment). He gives us what we don't deserve (forgiveness and justification).
Speaking of sons and daughters, read on to see how God has adopted you into His family.
Adopted and Assured
We have looked at what happens when we are regenerated (when Christ comes into our lives) and when we are justified (when God forgives our sin and puts His righteousness in its place). Now let us look at another incredible thing God has done for us. He has adopted us into His family as His children!
Adoption means "to be given the rights of a son". In essence, you have been given the full rights of sonship in the family of God as though you were born that way. The story of the Prodigal Son illustrates this (Luke 15:11-32). The wayward son thought that after leaving home, he would no longer be considered a son but would instead be treated as a hired servant. Much to his surprise, when he made the long journey home, his father welcomed him and smothered him with kisses. He then gave orders to bring out the best robe and to put a ring on his finger, signifying full rights as a son. That is exactly what God has done for you! Take some time now to examine three Scripture passages that assure you of your adoption into God's family.

1. God Disciplines His Children
The WT deceitfully tells lovers of God that only 144000 of their people can rightfully call Him Abba Father!
A slave was never permitted to address their Master as “Abba” or, Father. So if that is true, then why do you call Him “Father?” It’s because you are a son (daughter) of His!
Who do you see looking back at you when ever you happen to look into a mirror? ‘You only have two choices.’ Hebrews 12:5 (OKJ). And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: 6For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? 8But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

To have the Spirit of God in us, ‘to lead us,’ ‘to use us,’ we must repent and accept what He offers to us in John 1:2, (‘son ship). This proves Romans 8:14 is relating to each believer. “ because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.
Galatians 5:18But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law.
Galatians 5:18 closes the case on this subject. It drives the finale nail into the finished product of this subject, that the congregation as a whole, are sons and daughters of His by this same faith we have been talking about.
Recognizing you are now a child of God is not some distant hope but a present reality. One of the ways God will remind you of this is by correcting you and bringing you back into line like a loving father when you stray away from Him.
Before we were believers, we may have felt no sense of guilt for certain things we did or did not do, (This is what is being spoken of when the bible uses the phrase, when we were not “walking in the spirit” but walking in the flesh.”). We were walking in the “old personality” we once had, “in the flesh.” Paul helps us understand that we once walked in sin, ( in ‘Adam’) in the flesh and not in the spirit. Romans 8:9 KJV “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.” Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”
But now that we are Christians, God's Holy Spirit shows us the way to live, which includes correcting us. The mystery has been revealed to us. The Spirit of Christ is now in each believer, unless of course, we have failed the test, (2 Corinthians 13:5.) This is the mystery that has been hidden from our JW acquaintances; Col. 1:27, 28, Gal. 4:19, We are no longer part of the ‘walking dead that Jesus spoke of. Each was unfairly born in sin (‘Adam’.) Now by his grace He has allowed us to be born again. Not in Adam, (in the flesh), but in the spirit, (Jn 1:12, 13, 1Jn. 4:4, 15). Born into His Church, (Col. 2:18, 24, ) which is his body, he being the head. We are born into His service, (Romans 12:1). He does this not because He hates us, but because He loves us as His own dear children. Understanding this truth should help us in the way we behave.
2. You Have an Approachable Father (See Galatians 4:6)
The Hebrew word translated "dear Father" is Abba, which is a word of affection that a young child would use endearingly toward his or her father….Jesus teaches us how to pray by the way he taught his followers to address Him, “Abba,” (‘Father’).‘Did you ever borrow your father’s car by calling him by his first name??????’ A western equivalent of that phrase would be "papa" or "daddy." God does not want to be viewed as some distant, disinterested father, but as a loving, approachable father to whom you can turn at any time because you are His child. He will empower you with His Holy Spirit, - Luke 11:11-13. Do we dare think for a moment we could overcome our world around us on our own strength?” He knew what it was going to take for us to not be defeated by his enemy, (Eph. 5:18.) Only in this way, can we overcome the unholy world around us. In this way we are “set apart” because we, (each believer) have been sanctified, (Hebrews 10:10, Heb. 13:12, Acts 20:32, Acts 26:18, (as mentioned above). The humble stay that way, (1 John 1:9).
When does the Bible say we are sons of God?"

As soon as we truly repented, (Jn. 1:12,13, Colossians 2:6,).Ephesians 1:13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,

Gal. 3:26 You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, (see Romans 3:22 again.)

3. His Promises Are Not Based upon Your Feelings (See I John 5:1-5, 11-13)
There will be times as a Christian when you may not "feel" God's presence. You may even be tempted to doubt that He has come into your life. But I John 5:13 does not say, "I write this to you who believe in the Son of God so that you may feel you have eternal life." This is because feelings come and go. They fluctuate. Nor does the Bible say, "I write this so that you may hope - if God is in a really good mood - that you have eternal life." It says, "so that you may know . . . ." Eternal life is yours!” Stand on God's promise to you. You are forgiven, justified, sanctified, in Christ, adopted into His family, and assured of salvation. Titus 3:5 reinforces that our salvation ‘is’ assured. All we need to do is remain faithful, and we all have up to the moment this is posted.. .. “ hope Smile (Rev. 2:11).Who was the promises written too?”…Acts 13:26, 1Jhon 5:13, Ephesians 3:21. Now that is reason to rejoice! That is good news.

Our WT acquaintances have been betrayed.

God bless you each one of you.
disciple
Thank you, thank you, disciple.

Christian love and appreciation,,

gogh
Dear Deciple,

Your testimony to the Everlasting Good News was spoken quite well. I could'nt have said it any better. I can see that the Spirit of Truth is helping you as well get out these beautiful words to everyone. Keep spreading this most glorious news as far and wide as possible with complete Faith. May this Everlasting Good News spread to all the nations. You are one of God's Children, and the Holy Spirit is teaching you to tell out this same message the world all must know before the end will come. This message is changing lives incredibly. May the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit keep guiding you, in your persuit, and keep on walking by Spirit and Faith.
With much Love,
Your Sister,
New Heart
Wave Dear(brother/sister?) Disciple -

greatjob So sorry I missed this great thread first time around - it deserves to be bbttt. Instead of starting another one, I thought it would be good to add to an existing thread, and this is a good one! Thumbup

Your words have timeless and true insight - plus it's very relevant right now, what with discussion here of a particular thread on another board and all...Whistle ...

This is what I've come to believe also - from experience first, then the Bible research. As a JW I only did the research from the magazines and books, but had no experience, only theory - from being taught that we couldn't and shouldn't even enter that 'race'. ( before they 'reopened' the 'door to the heavenly calling'.)Thinking

Your following quote, in particular, is a startling revelation when we are free enough from the overshadowing WT indoctrination to even begin to understand the previously unfathomable depth of meaning of God's mercy, forgiveness and
love - His grace that is only availed to us through His Son ---

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1. God Disciplines His Children
The WT deceitfully tells lovers of God that only 144000 of their people can rightfully call Him Abba Father!
A slave was never permitted to address their Master as “Abba” or, Father. So if that is true, then why do you call Him “Father?” It’s because you are a son (daughter) of His!
Who do you see looking back at you when ever you happen to look into a mirror? ‘You only have two choices.’ Hebrews 12:5 (OKJ) [what's the "O"...KingJames?] . And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: 6For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? 8But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

To have the Spirit of God in us, ‘to lead us,’ ‘to use us,’ we must repent and accept what He offers to us in John 1:2, (‘son ship). This proves Romans 8:14 is relating to each believer. “ because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.
Galatians 5:18But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law.
Galatians 5:18 closes the case on this subject. It drives the finale nail into the finished product of this subject, that the congregation as a whole, are sons and daughters of His by this same faith we have been talking about.
Recognizing you are now a child of God is not some distant hope but a present reality. One of the ways God will remind you of this is by correcting you and bringing you back into line like a loving father when you stray away from Him.
Before we were believers, we may have felt no sense of guilt for certain things we did or did not do, (This is what is being spoken of when the bible uses the phrase, when we were not “walking in the spirit” but walking in the flesh.”). We were walking in the “old personality” we once had, “in the flesh.” Paul helps us understand that we once walked in sin, ( in ‘Adam’) in the flesh and not in the spirit. Romans 8:9 KJV “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.” Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”
But now that we are Christians, God's Holy Spirit shows us the way to live, which includes correcting us. The mystery has been revealed to us.


Yes, the revelation of Jesus Christ is, as you said, 2 choices, either we're for him or against him, in or out - believer or unbeliever - of God or not of God - righteous or unrighteous - Christian or nonchristian. I see you referenced Gal.3:26, and I would go further with an extended argument found there for justification by faith in Christ, the promised Seed, and advise reading all of Galatians ch. 3 with open ears and a humbled heartLove I pasted and hi-lited some extra-relevant(lol, it's all relevant, it's all relative!) verses ---
6 Consider Abraham: "He believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness." 7 Understand, then, that those who believe are children of Abraham. 8 The Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: "All nations will be blessed through you." 9 So those who have faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit. 15 Brothers, let me take an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established, so it is in this case. 16 The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ. 17 What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise.

19 What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come.

22 But the Scripture declares that the whole world is a prisoner of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.
23 Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24 So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith.

26 You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.


This comment on that other forum got me thinking about the word "seed" and the 2-tier, 2-hope Christianity espoused by the wtbts-

"Of course the great crowd put faith in Christ and benefit from his ransom. But benefiting from the ransom sacrifice is not the same as being in the new covenant. After all, the dead who did not even know Christ will eventually benefit from the ransom sacrifice, and they too must eventually acknowledge Christ is Lord, even as the scripture says that every knee will bow, even those in the grave. The great crowd and the rest of the dead who will receive an earthly resurrection, and who thereafter obey Christ as Lord, are the nations who will bless themselves by means of the seed. Whereas, Christ and the partakers of the blood of the covenant are the seed. Big difference."
Scratchhead-makes it sound like belief in Jesus Christ now is of no benefit to the believer now or in the future - they are the same as resurrected mankind who didn't even know of Jesus, all people 'of the nations'.... ??? isn't that outside the Kingdom... ??? What about Rev. 7 -
The Great Multitude in White Robes
9 After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10 And they cried out in a loud voice:
"Salvation belongs to our God,
who sits on the throne,
and to the Lamb." 11 All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying:
"Amen!
Praise and glory
and wisdom and thanks and honor
and power and strength
be to our God for ever and ever.
Amen!"
13 Then one of the elders asked me, "These in white robes—who are they, and where did they come from?" 14 I answered, "Sir, you know." And he said, "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore,
"they are before the throne of God
and serve him day and night in his temple;
and he who sits on the throne will spread his tent over them.
16 Never again will they hunger; never again will they thirst. The sun will not beat upon them, nor any scorching heat.
17For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd;
he will lead them to springs of living water.

And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes."
Sounds to me like the 'great multitude' is wherever God's throne is, wherever His Temple is, wherever the Lamb is... where tested and true believers will find themselves. Pray

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The Spirit of Christ is now in each believer, unless of course, we have failed the test, (2 Corinthians 13:5.)

Luke 8:11 "This is the meaning of the parable: The seed is the word of God. 12 Those along the path are the ones who hear, and then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and be saved. 13 Those on the rock are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it, but they have no root. They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away. 14 The seed that fell among thorns stands for those who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked by life's worries, riches and pleasures, and they do not mature. 15 But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the word, retain it, and by persevering produce a crop."
I think... here Jesus calls the seed God's Word - which produces faith; that it is our faith in God and in Jesus as the true Christ, God's Son, that's tested. So... by perseverance of belief/trust/faith in them, a good crop of even more faith is produced in us - which produces more sharing of that faith with unbelievers - little seeds of God's Word leading them to Christ...
Mark 4:24"Consider carefully what you hear," he continued. "With the measure you use, it will be measured to you—and even more. 25 Whoever has will be given more; whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him."

- and there is so much more to it, eh?Whistle Another thought - we must run this race to the finish. As there are no 'winners' until the race is completed and everyone crosses the finishline, we won't know our 'assignment' or 'reward' in the Kingdom of God until Judgement Day.
Jesus made the direct point so many times, that we believers are all to be like beloved family to each other and work together with no regard to a position that is 'above' other believers. We're to be brothers; sons; children of our Heavenly Father; united with Him as one, just as Yeshua is in unity with Him; shoulder-to-shoulder fellow workers, servants and slaves.... family - not the hierarchal caste system religions have built to keep all humankind in their proper 'ranks', that is - separated from God and Christ by the very system they claim bridges that gap - their religion.

There is only one that is The Way to God and that is His Chosen Son, our Messiah, and the Savior for all who believe in him and have faith in God's promises made real through him!

Therefore, our hope is totally in him, through him, for him - it's all about Jesus!Love

... anyone have some more thoughts and Scriptures on the contextual usage of seed/seeds? I know you do... lol!

HeartbeatTruth... ya gotta LOVE it!Yes

Looking forward to more, more, more...Read

Love to you, Disciple, and love to you ALL, my brethren. Group Hug
Your sister in Christ,
Willa

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