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Oh my God!

This was just sent to me from a witness in France.

(I have to say firstly that most here have suffered for our loving father and he knows that.
We are willing to do that, but sometimes religions/denominations get in the way. Sometimes they cause us suffering, or even more suffering than necessary.
Our father who reads all hearts knows our motives and knows that too).


"As part of a convention program in Japan , a sister was asked to give her experience of how she came into the truth. She explained about how she had wanted to study with the Witnesses, but that she first had to get permission from her father. Her father however was involved in the Japanese Mafia and was a very hard man. The Japanese Mafia has a reputation for being very harsh and brutal in their dealings with people. For example: rather than kill someone, they'll disfigure or maim them to cause them to suffer for the rest of their lives.When she asked her dad if she could study with the Witnesses, he immediately responded with an emphatic, "NO!".
He told her that he would not allow any daughter of his to study with those people. She tried to explain how much this meant to her, but he still wouldn't give in to her pleadings. After many attempts on her part, he finally told her if it was that important to her, then she should be willing to sacrifice something for it.
She told him that she was.
He said that the price that she would have to pay in order to study with Jehovah's Witnesses would be to have one of her fingers cut off.
She tried to reason with him; but soon realized that this would be the only way she would be able to study, so, she agreed! He had the first finger of the right hand cut off. She began her study. After a time, she wanted to start attending the meetings.
She again had to ask her father for permission. He again told her that she would have to sacrifice another finger if she really wanted to attend the meetings. She agreed. And her father had the middle finger cut off.
Then, she progressed to the point of baptism. The scenario was the same as before: He told her that she knew the price, and the ring finger of the same hand was cut off. Through all of this, she was so grateful to Jehovah for allowing her to be baptized and to serve him, that she gave no thought to the sacrifices she had made.
The brother conducting the interview then asked the sister, "Now that time has passed, has your father any remorse over his actions towards you?"
She said, "Why don't you ask him yourself...he's here today getting baptized!"
Her father came out on the stage, hugged his daughter, and began to cry. He tearfully expressed how sorry he was for hurting his daughter in such a cruel way. He said he felt as if he could never make it up to her.
The brother then asked the sister if she had any feelings of anger towards her father over what he had done to her. She replied, 'If all it took was three fingers to gain my father as my brother, then it was well worth it!'"


I was weeping through this story, but can you imagine how much Jehovah loves her, just as he loved Tyndale who probably believed the trinity?

We love our babies even though they cannot even say Mamma or Pappa.
How much more does our heavenly father love us, when we have the emotion right but not all the nit-picky details as to doctrine or religion?

People who have spent their whole lives serving God, but haven't got the right details are more loved by Him than those who think they have dotted their I and crossed their T, but lord it over others because they think they have doctrinal superiority.

OK eyes now dry and rant off.

Love to you all,

vicky
wow vicky Love pretty well speechless Love and overwhelmed Heartbeat

man hu Wrote:
I was weeping through this story, but can you imagine how much Jehovah loves her, just as he loved Tyndale who probably believed the trinity?

We love our babies even though they cannot even say Mamma or Pappa.
How much more does our heavenly father love us, when we have the emotion right but not all the nit-picky details as to doctrine or religion?

People who have spent their whole lives serving God, but haven't got the right details are more loved by Him than those who think they have dotted their I and crossed their T, but lord it over others because they think they have doctrinal superiority.

OK eyes now dry and rant off.

Love to you all,

vicky


vicky
Very touching story indeed!

In line with your comments, how are we to apply Jesus words at Matt 23:15?

"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are."

I have wondered about this scripture lately. Can it apply to those in the organization? No matter how sincere one is doesnt correct doctrine matter according to Jesus words?

Please advise. Thanks.

The question is, will she be willing to do it all again, when she finds out the real truth and hypocrisy behind the Watchtower lies? I believe she will! Along with her father!ReadJehovah has a very special young lady there, who loves Him without compromise, and without knowing all the facts!HeartbeatShe must have made His heart rejoice indeed!Heartbeat
Christian love to all,
Sis Grateful Giverose
Yeah, let's broaden our prayers for people who buy into losing body parts to serve our Father.

If I woke up from WT sleep missing fingers, I'd be dejected.

The only bright spot in this story, imho, is her father seeing he was wrong for causing bodily harm to his child.

Smacks of WT propanganda to me. (but that's just me)
Sorry about the above post, Vickie. I just still have alot of bitterness toward the Society.

There had to be something in that girl's heart to go through that. It would have to be love of her Creator. My question is, does He test us like that? If so, then where was my test? Did I fail miserably?

One thing I would say for certain, I would NEVER follow another human being blindly into anything biblical. How would this girl feel after reading CoC? She lost her fingers because the GB voted and it was all political just like Christ said it would be!!!!

I wish I could quote scripture and verse. Something in the back of my mind is telling me that anytime people try to organize, even if for a worthy cause, it is destined to fail. This is because of pride and our fallen flesh.

If y'all would hit me upside the back of my head a concordance would probably fall out. There is a wealth of information in there somewhere.
Hi wasblind. Greetings.

Re: "...mind is telling me that anytime people try to organize, even if for a worthy cause, it is destined to fail."

How about this one....(grin)...

Genesis 11:6...

" And Jehovah proceeded to go down to see the city and the tower that the sons of men had built. After that Jehovah said: “Look! They are one people and there is one language for them all, and this is what they start to do. Why, now there is nothing that they may have in mind to do that will be unattainable for them. Come now! Let us go down and there confuse their language that they may not listen to one another’s language.” Accordingly Jehovah scattered them..."

Christian love and appreciation,

gogh
"Does anyone dare despise this day of small beginnings?" - Zachariah 4:10

"My dear children, let's not just talk about love; let's practice real love. This is the only way we'll know we're living truly, living in God's reality. It's also the way to shut down debilitating self-criticism, even when there is something to it. For God is greater than our worried hearts and knows more about us than we do ourselves" - 1 John 3:19

"Love never dies. Inspired speech will be over some day; praying in tongues will end; understanding will reach its limit. We know only a portion of the truth, and what we say about God is always incomplete. But when the Complete arrives, our incompletes will be canceled" - 1 Corinthians 13:8

"God will look to every soul like its first love because He is its first love" - C.S Lewis

Christian Love,

Pete.

Yannis Wrote:
vicky
Very touching story indeed!

In line with your comments, how are we to apply Jesus words at Matt 23:15?

"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are."

I have wondered about this scripture lately. Can it apply to those in the organization? No matter how sincere one is doesnt correct doctrine matter according to Jesus words?

Please advise. Thanks.


Let's start from the bottom up.
Advice from me would be a joke.

Secondly I love that scripture.
I wonder how much does it apply to the "Witnesses"?

Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.


Pioneering, tramping the streets, telling people how to live their lives, when really it is about love.

"Correct doctrine" has nothing to do with God.

He wants us to know Him from within and how to respond to love.

I don't pull up a pamphlet, and check all the minuteae, on how to love my mother and father.
I just do! It is written on the heart. Jer.31
Reminds me must give them a call!!!

Love him as your next of kin, not as a distant fearsome Aztec God.

That is why the OT is full of scarey stuff. He would not have been respected if he did not come over as a fire-eating-dragon-inconsolable beastie, like the other gods.

But then he sent his Son

Our God is Love and Good, as perfectly reflected by his humble son.


Oh boy, must switch off that rant button!

ps. Yannis how do you make your hair grow like a L'Oreal ad?

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