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Hi Brothers & Sisters
On the new Watchman site there will be a page about the Wild Beast.

I have been studying this for some time now and have found a definite connection with the Masons as I will explain when it is uploaded. If my analysis is true then this means religious people will unwittingly receive the mark of the wild beast if their religion has Mason contamination within their ranks. Hope to upload in two weeks.

I look forward to reading it AC, as I have had the understanding that each person makes a cognizant choice as to whether or not to accept the mark of the beast.

agape,
James

I believe this as well, and they are like hidden cancer within all man made religions. It is the way satan gets a foothold on our hearts ,if possible even the chosen ones. Thats why we are told to get out of her my people.

I'm looking forward to it as well, Brother. This is a very important subject. If we're talking about religions with Mason infiltration, that would include just about all of them.

Edited in: It is amazing that right after I read this post, I came across two scriptures that support your notion, while I was researching something entirely different.

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children." -Hosea 4:6

"There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death." -Proverbs 14:12




Jesh

I posted a video on my blog which I hope will help everybody understand who the Wild Beast is, how to calculate the number and how those who get the mark willingly accept it which, gives veneration to the beast itself. To properly understand the calculation I recommend that the blog be read also. After the Man of Lawlessness is recognised and the Disgusting thing seen standing in a holy place the calculation is easier to rationalize.

http://matthewsgeneration.blogspot.com/

There is however, another video which I have yet to make which explains why the mark can be either in the forehead or right hand.

I'll try and put it into words now however, a visual explanation should work much better.

In regards to baptism the Jehovahs Witnesses have what is considered a very important doctrine. The baptimal candidate MUST be FULLY IMMERSED. If the candidate is not fully immersed then those who are publicly watching may consider the baptism invalid.

So..... in order for the baptism to be completely valid it is important that the very last parts of a persons body be fully immersed in water. The attendant who is in the pool and assisting with the baptism must therefore make very very certain that these last parts of a persons body are fully immersed only then is the baptism considered valid.

So depending on how a candidate either leans forward or backward it is either the persons forehead or their right hand which goes under the water last. It is only then that they get the "Mark of the Beast". and the vow made to the Beasts name is complete. After all this doctrine itself belongs to the wild beast.

I am certain the explanation will look better once the video is complete.

regards

ablebodiedman

Theres a new Watchman site?

So those of us (which includes me)that never got baptized as a JW are in the clear and don't have to worry about the MARK?
Yippie!

agape,
James

Watch this baptism video.

Is it the forehead or the right hand which is last to be fully immersed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JQdybEcacM


ablebodiedman

Looks like it's a tie to me.

I still don't get the connection. Are you saying to get baptized as a JW is accepting the Mark?

Does that mean that most members here (as former JW's) are Marked?


agape,
James

Hi ablebodiedman

In what way is someone forced to be baptised? As scripture indicates..."The second beast forces all people..."


Rev 13:16...

"The second beast forces all people-important and unimportant, rich and poor, free and slaves-to be marked on their right hands or on their foreheads, so that no one may buy or sell unless he has the mark, which is the beast's name or the number of its name."

gogh

so the mark of the beast is exclusive to the WTo and jws?

No my friend the mark of the beast is bigger than that, it is global, enforced one world religion
that is why the large horn seen by daniel speaks granduois words and blasphemes God
he is also the MOL who sets himself up in gods temple proclaiming himself to be God.

think of it ! satans counterfeit of the kingdom of God
the man of lawlessness as the antichrist with satan as his god (the dragon) whom the nations will worship indirectly through him

in opposition to Christ, the son of God, who we worship the true GOD through.

mankind will be in the plain of decision when rev 13 and 14 come to fruition.

let us be awake and ready for that day

Elihu

Are you sure you have presented a photo of a right hand, Artcritic?

(or is it my dyslexia?)

...

gogh,


Start attending a Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnessess and participate in every activity that you can possibly participate in without being baptized.

What will happen if you don't get baptized after one year?

Two years?

Five years?

Ten years?


Eventually the elders will start giving talks from the platform designed to encourage you to baptize.

Then the circuit overseer will do the same.

The talks and the contoversy they cause inside the kingdom hall will escalate to the point where you will have to decide either to leave or get baptized.

I don't think however, that what I am telling you is something you don't already know.

ablebodiedman