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Does anyone here know anything about or around UFO's, crop circles, atlantis or nibiru/planetX 2012?

Yes .Its part of Satans propaganda system.

On many of these issues we can merely speculate; I personally don't find anything wrong with that.

As far as UFO's. crop circles, Atlantis, ancient technology and such. I think that people today seem to greatly underestimate man's intelligence and abilities both now and in the past.

Could evil spirits also be involved in these? I think that's possible.

Actually..the real demonic propanganda, is on your local news channels like Fox and all the other ones who do not give the dumbed down sheeple and couch potatoes the true news, because guess why?.they arent allowed to. Man is so dumbed down they think what is on the evening news at 6:00 is the real news and truth they are being fed. All you have to do is look at the different rock layers of many sediments to find out how many different time periods there were in our past and know that something huge caused these great catyclismic time periods on earth. To name one...the flood. also read Jerimiah Chapter 25 and 26. http://www.yowusa.com/

About the UFO thing...No one will believe till they see it for themselves. They are the same thing as the chariots Ezekiel talked about. Thats what he was trying to describe I believe. Read Ezekiel slowly.

Hi New Heart :)


I am surprised you've fallen for the "Ezekiel saw a UFO" theory that Ufologists claim. Ezekiel said it was a vision. It is symbolic of Jehovah's heavenly organisation. Why would God need to fly in a physical spacecraft, when he can go anywhere and do anything by means of his holy spirit? Please read this again. Ezekiel 1:1-3 (New English Translation):

In the thirtieth year, on the fifth day of the fourth month, while I was among the exiles at the Kebar River, the heavens opened and I saw a divine vision. 2 (On the fifth day of the month – it was the fifth year of King Jehoiachin’s exile – 3 the word of the Lord came to the priest Ezekiel the son of Buzi, at the Kebar River in the land of the Babylonians. The hand of the Lord came on him there).


Londoner

Hi Everybody: If we are to believe in UFO’s then we must also believe in the possibility that demons are able to materialize. What else can these “UFO’s” be?

If there is life outside of this planet then we can only believe two things:

1.- Those “Aliens” are people just like us; people that are sinless and perfect. -Genesis 1:28-.

2.- There are two Creators of the universe, and each of them has a particular way of doing things.

Which belief makes more sense to you?

Its not a spacecraft. Its a glowing ball of light, which moves to and fro from the spirit of the angel in it. How can I say it is not real when not only did I see this, but also my grown daughters as they both were standing right there with me, and still remember it all. Thats why I am saying, no one will believe till they see for it for themselves. After this happened, I was blessed with many visions, but only looked upon as a fool and delusional for even mentioning them.

In fact, much like Ezekiels vision too..(I was by the river In the thirtieth year, on the fifth day of the fourth month, while I was among the exiles at the Kebar River, the heavens opened and I saw a divine vision. 2 (On the fifth day of the month – it was the fifth year of King Jehoiachin’s exile – 3 the word of the Lord came to the priest Ezekiel the son of Buzi, at the Kebar River in the land of the Babylonians. The hand of the Lord came on him there).

I have seen this river , for I was shown this place, and I have it all written in my book of all the visions I have been given. I am not lying against the Holy Spirit. Thats why I know what Ezekiel was feeling when he wrote down his visions. I don't expect anyone to believe till they someday see that what I am saying is true. Only till then, till it is revealed to them, can they understand.

Well...I don't think you're a fool, New Heart. I'm just waiting for the application. You see things I don't and I would like to know what they mean. They must have a purpose. Jehovah always does things with a purpose in mind. You see things and relate them to me/us. What does Jehovah want me/us to do with the information?

gus

am i the only one here who thinks there is a noteably significent chance of a possibility that the existance of nonhuman/nonyhwh sentience may at the very least have significent implications on the meaning of ancient stories, so called myths and the bible? For one it wipes the scientific foreknowledge argument for the existance of the god of the bible.
Am i the only one who knows of people that develop ideas based on ancient stories such is Zechariah Sitchin, Micheal Tsarion among others.

Nope. I have considered those things. There are some imaginative minds that have attempted to explain life's great mysteries as extraterrestrial intervention(s). I don't know how "significant" the chances are of those things having occurred; but I have considered them. Why wouldn't angels posing as men and mating with human women meet the criteria for extraterrestrials? Apparently they (and their offspring) were around for a few years. Just knowing that the beings existed in the physical could answer a lot of questions. Then again, YHWH had them destroyed for a reason.

gus

No, I don't think we have to believe either of those two thing. Unsporting to try to inflict your personal paradigm on everyone else.