Whay do we have PM rules? Aren't we supposed to follow God's law instead of our own law?
Chrstians' authority is YHWH and Jesus, the reason I did not join JW because they do not respect indivicual's gifts and push GB's laws. They don't respect indivicual's opinions. If we cannot express our convictions as Jesus' followers, are we any different from other organizations? I thought this forum is trying to stay away from all this. But it seem the same kind of trait is going on here, IMHO.
Jesus' servant,
hitomi
Dear joyful ... I hope the weather is good on this new day and that it finds you well and feeling rested ...:D
I would like to ask you though as I do not understand your concerns ...
What does PM's or the 'rules' thereof have anything to do with JW's ... respecting individual's gifts and and pushing GB's laws ...?
Also you said ...
If we cannot express our convictions as Jesus' followers, are we any different from other organizations?
Who says we cannot express our convictions as Jesus' followers ... is that not what we are here for ...?
Speaking of our faith and love in Christ and God is what being a Christian is all about is it not ... as long as we do so in a manner that is full of deep respect for others and their views and said in a loving and non controversial manner ... even here in the controversy section such Christian traits are to be applied are they not ... for we are Christians ALL of the time no matter which topic we may be discussing are we not ...?
PM's are as sis Willa said to you earlier ...
PRIVATE messages ... and are meant to be so ... the only time such messages would be passed along to the PC Admin team is if they were as the rules state obscene or whatever ...
This is not 'our' rules ... but is a common board etiquette rule at least as far as I know ...
Do you have a problem with this ...?
If so ... why ... I don't understand ... and I don't understand your connecting PM's with the statements you made above ...
Could you clarify please ...?
Luv BR :sheepy: :bouncyhearts:
Who says we cannot express our convictions as Jesus' followers ... is that not what we are here for ...?
I just got warning from admin. It seems that we can express anything as long as we agree with the forum. I dont have anything to hide and I dont want hide ugly situations using PMs and it is not christian manner. I have been using PMs mostly for positive things. It seems forums' PMs have much different than Jesus' ideas. we should not be talking behind closed doors if we cannot do it in publicly.
Dear Joyful ...
Perhaps you are misunderstanding once again ... easy to do I do it all the time ... ?;)
PM's ... to me ... are decided for various things ... perhaps someone wants to discuss a particular subject with a particular person privately and uses pm's to do so ... or perhaps someone has a 'problem' with another person and so to avoid unduly upsetting others with something that may be none of their business (to put it bluntly as you said you like to have things stated ... and which is a Scriptural admonition anyway) they pm the individual directly to hopefully GAIN THEM in a spirit of love and long-suffering and kindness ... or perhaps they want to encourage someone they feel is down and want to send them ... kind of like a 'get well card' perhaps ... pm electronic style ...:friends:
PM's are NOT about things being said ... 'in secret' or 'behind closed' as if they are something 'bad' in some way ... just another way to communicate with one another in a more 'personal' way perhaps ... a 'one on one' kind of thing ...:giverose:
Whatever the reason ... the use of pm's is always meant to be used in a good and upbuilding manner as I know you know ...
As to what you said regarding ...
It seems that we can express anything as long as we agree with the forum.
My dear sister ... I think you are reading whatever was written to you wrongly ... for there are MANY topics on which members do not agree ... for since we do not have FULL knowledge or understanding YET how could it be otherwise ...?:dontknow:
However, if views are presented respectfully ... and hopefully with Scriptural support ... then there is no problem ...
It seems to me ... and I say this respectfully if somewhat apprehensively ... that you seem to be looking for areas in which to disagree or be argumentative or looking for negative things ...:(
I am not sure WHY this is ...? Perhaps things are not going well in your life and you are 'venting' perhaps?
If something is bothering you then maybe you should talk with someone you trust ... either on the board or in the 'real' world ... this is just a suggestion and an observation ... I am not saying it to be nosy or accusing ... just in trying to 'understand' why you have been writing as you have ... :huh:
Christian love as always ... BR :sheepy: :bouncyhearts:
Hi Joyful :hibye:, I was just wondering; how did you pick that name? e-m
Hi Joyful :hibye:, I was just wondering; how did you pick that name? e-m
I am joyful with my family and everhone around me especially I have to be a good witnesses for evangelizing. Your question don't sound so nice in this situation. Are we being fair?
Perhaps you are misunderstanding once again ... easy to do I do it all the time ... ?
I asked admin to expose all my dealings with them. So I dont exaggerate or mislead.
so far I am not getting any reply back.
Hi again ...:hibye:
Since it seems you want things ... exposed ... or out in opening ... so to speak ... may I ask WHY you would want your private pm's addressed to the admin to be posted on the board ...
Is it with a view to 'peace' or a setting them up to be viewed as 'secretive' somehow ...?
The policy is what it is my sister ... there is nothing nefarious about it in any way ...
I am not sure as what you are worried about in being thought of as 'exaggerating' or 'misleading' ... it is quite clear from your posts your views and thoughts ... the only question I am pondering is WHY this has become an 'issue' for you ...??:dontknow:
You don't seem to answer any of my questions or acknowledge my attempts at trying to understand where you're coming from ...
You just seem to ask more questions or bring up new things ...:dontknow:
I am so sorry that we don't seem to be able to have a meeting of the minds ...:)
May our God grant you peace and JOY here and everywhere my sister!
Christian love ... BR :sheepy: :bouncyhearts:
Dear Joyful,
Please respect the guidelines of PM's and emails. You do not have the permission of the PC Site Admin Team to post PM's from the team to you.
If you do not want to respect these guidelines please say so. We can remove you from the board if you so wish.
We all want to have a peaceful board and do not want to be engaging in needless fighting over issues that you should settle privately. You seem to have a fighting spirit.
The warning you mentioned was not worded as you said and PC Site Admin Team will not be drawn into a debate of your own making. You have a problem interpreting things. Unfortunately you seem to be getting the wrong message instead of the intended message.
We hope you will reconsider your position.
Warmly,
PC Site Admin Team
The warning you mentioned was not worded as you said and PC Site Admin Team will not be drawn into a debate of your own making.
that's the reason why I asked you to reveal all my dealings with you so that if I am telling the truth or exaggerating. But you are still refusing my request and saying I am not wording right.
this kind of experience I had with JW congregation and other churches. So many secret dealings. I don't even know when I will be banned. If my friend gets banned I would like to know exacly what happened. I am using Jesus' golden rule.
Now, what happened to Yannis? I cann't reach him since my pm account is disabled. I hope he did not get banned over me.
If you didn't get banned Joyful then I am sure Yannis didn't for expressing concern over your situation. As you can see it takes alot for a ban to be placed on anyone. We should appreciate the very difficult job it is to keep a forum as large as this one running smoothly and how difficult it is to keep everyone happy--that probably can't ever be done 100% of the time. There are some forums that are free-for-alls but they don't have a very pleasant atmosphere and I have never understood how anyone could actually thrive there--(jmo)
''when you do things, do not let selfishness or pride
be your guide. Instead, be humble and give more honor
to others than to yourselves. Do not be interested only
in your own life, but be interested in the lives of others.
In your own lives you must think and act like Christ Jesus.'' Phil.2:3-5.
May I also add to you Hitomi that I as well as many here regard the pm's as confidential talk. I also have the attitude that I only say in a pm to a friend what Could go on the front board--usually-- but that isn't really the point. The point is we have this provision to talk to another with the confidence that it is Private --that gives us a feeling of security regarding expressing feelings or thoughts that may not even be of interest to everyone--because it is considered Confidential talk it is very important to respect the privacy of others as well as wanting the privacy for yourself. It involves respect and it works very well. the Bible also has scriptures regarding the importance of valuing the confidential talk of a friend--I would be happy to post some of them for you if you would care to read them Hitomi and think how betrayed you would feel if you told someone a private and or sensitive matter in confidence and then they took that outside to others--to me Hitomi it involves many things that make us loyal friends and better confidants-- :hibye:
I respect your opinions but I disagree with your perspective.
I still stick with my former posts.
I was given many threats (IMHO) by admin. I did not think it was christian manner or following Jesus' golden rule.
There are many reasons how people are being treated. I am Okinawan; get easily being treated like English ignorant poster. Of course your wording is much better but you should know what I am talking about.
How we resolve who is exaggerating or lying is only by revealing the whole truth.
HI Hitomi,
you said,
"There are many reasons how people are being treated. I am Okinawan; get easily being treated like English ignorant poster. Of course your wording is much better but you should know what I am talking about."
I would like to point out that you may not realize this but your posts seem to be very provoking, for instance "being treated like English ignorant poster" Since this board is somewahat international a statement like this might get a bad reaction. AS you have pointed out that certain things are not christian like conduct, many here realize that we stumble with our words more often then not. I personally have a hard time understanding what people are trying to say many times, so I ask them to clarify it.
BEcause many times what we read is not what is intended..
Frank