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Long story short:

I work the overnight shift. A day shifter wants to get on the night shift, but administration won't let her because there's no opening for her. So day shifter is spreading vicious, false, information about me (she is also pretty tight with the administrators, btw). Apparently she's been doing this for weeks, unbeknownst to me until a week ago.

That's when I got in trouble for shoddy work that wasn't of my doing. I pleaded my case and thought it was over. But the other day, I got a write-up at work, new versions of the same old accusations, with a threat of termination this time. Because she's so tight with them, they aren't taking my responses seriously. And now the admins themselves are accusing me of leaving work early all the time! (It takes my palm print to punch out at end of shift, so it will be easy to prove that's an outright lie).

Tomorrow I'm going to speak to the administrators and see if I can get them to see reason. The accusations are so baseless, and I have several people to back me up regarding the truth....but I have the unsettling feeling they don't care about the truth. It's easier just to push me out the door than it is to investigate matters and put forth effort to find the truth.

There's other details, but that's the brief version of the story.

My husband isn't working at this time, so if I lose my job I'm not going to be able to pay the rent, feed my family, or pay for our medications.

Please pray for us!
You'll have my prayers, Tami.

You live in NY, correct? I believe that NY is an "at will" employment state with a timid judiciary. Technically, "at will" means any employer can fire any employee at any time without reason. Like I said, "technically" they can do this. If the conflict can't be resolved through traditional channels (person-to-person, HR, etc), your best bet is through whatever you use for collective bargaining and grievance resolution. Employers who use power to resolve conflict can often be offset by employees using a rights-based mechanism. Employees have rights...regardless of NY's lack of aggression in supporting them.

EEOC won't be of much help without establishing a discrimination-based "cause" (race, creed, religion, national origin, etc, etc). But employers can still be sued for wrongful discharge. In such a case, your employment work history stands as a matter of record. Discharging someone without establishing a pattern of poor work habits over a reasonable period of time is belligerent and quite disputable.

Your state should have an agency who can refer you without charge.

gus

Melancholymuse Wrote:
uth....but I have the unsettling feeling they don't care about the truth. It's easier just to push me out the door than it is to investigate matters and put forth effort to find the truth.

My husband isn't working at this time, so if I lose my job I'm not going to be able to pay the rent, feed my family, or pay for our medications.

Please pray for us!


Hello Tami,

Boy, does your story sound familiar. It's pretty close to what happened to me a few years ago. One of the workers I worked with (who was hired longer than I was.) became jealous because the friends she had, began to show favor to me and she didn't like it so did everything she could to make me and my work look bad. (I believe that in some instances, she set me up.) Nothing was done to do a close investigation of the matter. Well, what goes around comes around.

Seeing that you said:

"(she is also pretty tight with the administrators, btw)."

It sounds like there is a good possibility that the administrators may be showing favortism and may want her to get your job. So this may be why they are allowing her to cause you so much trouble. I hope that this is not the case. Be confident and play it calm and cool. (This will give the impression that you have no idea what she (your nemesis :) is talking about.

You will be in my prayers dear sis. My heart goes out to you. :heartbeat::heartbeat::heartbeat: Lean on God and trust that He will solve this matter. :happyheart:

Warmest,
Anchor~

Thank Gus, you've given me something to check out.
I've been up all night doing my "homework" on this matter.

I can get this person for defamation of character, as "defamation" is defined as harm to the character or reputation of a person directly caused by the direct statement or act of another person. In this case, it is slander, as it is only by spoken word.

There is also something called "constructive discharge". Constructive discharge is when something intolerable has happened recently, something so unbearable that it causes a person to quit their job...something that without the situation, the person would not have quit.
I did put in a notice of quitting at first, thinking I was simply being harrassed relentlessly, figuring it would go on forever for whatever reason and that it was simply best to just leave. AFTER I put in the notice of quitting, I found out that the one person was doing this to get me fired and take my job. Whereas at first I thought it would be an ongoing situation that I should get out of, now I realize I should fight for my position, for that is the reason for the harrassment. If my position regains it's security, the person will stop their slander.

In other words, I didn't quit because I simply decided to. I quit because I was being pressured to. This is constructive discharge.

I'm going in to my meeting armed with this information. I'm also going to ask to see my own personal employee record -- which I have a right to do -- just to see what exactly is written in it. I am also going to go in with a mini tape recorder. According to New York State law, they do not need to agree to be recorded, they simply have to be informed that it is happening. Therefore, I am bringing it with me, and informing them as much.

My family's well-being is at stake. I'm not playing games. May Yahweh allow the truth to prevail!
Sorry to hear about your problem, Tami. Will pray for you.

Warm Christian Love
Bangalore
Sister M

My hands are up to Jah on your behalf. Keep a clear head and know that the burden is already on the Lord as you confront this situation.

Your Brother In Christ

Son Of Korah
Yes, Tami, I was going to suggest a mini tape recorder. Get as much information as you can out of them. This is harrassment, and they need to know you are serious about what is happening to you, unfairly, at work. Get as much information behind you to fight it. It may just make them be less aggressive with you if they think you might pursue the case. Keep strong and calm, and may Jehovah be with you.
Christian love to you,
Sister Grateful. :giverose:
well Tami :crybaby: I am so sorry--and shocked actually as this is Exactly what another woman told me about her job here at our local grocery store--someone wanted her hours and set out to get her job--anyway she could :rant: (makes you wonder if it's going around) --I will be thinking of you and yours Tami--and praying too--:grouphug: love to you And to Myndlon--always--your friend wolfie :friends:
Hello Tami,

I am so sorry to hear about the situation you are dealing with. My prayers and that of my families will be with you.

I pray that Jah and Jesus ease all your anxieties for the day, and carry you safely into their arms.

Love
Lynn
Tami,

Sorry to hear about your work problems. Our comfort is in Jesus' promise that we will be cared for so long as we keep our eyes on Heaven. We will keep your situation in prayer - and pray that if it is God's will that you will not lose your job and also that you will have peace in your heart.

Please keep us informed as the situation develops.

Your brother in Christ,

Anthony
Hi Tami

I'll pray for you too. I know what it is like trying to get by, keep a job, look for a job etc.. It all stinks. Sometimes though when you lose a job a better opportunity comes along. So if you do end up losing this one I pray you get a better one. I got fired from a job and the next day got a job that paid two dollars more with better hours. Jehovah will provide what you need. Sometimes we have to be patient and sometimes we do have to do with less for a while. I know you got kids and have to feed and cloth them so I would be glad to help out even if I can only give a little, if you get in a pinch!:friends:

I just got back to work myself and we have a lot of catching up to do for all the time that I was out of work because of my injury last year. I still worry about my back going out again but it has been pretty good.
Dear Tami,

You are most definitely in my prayers. :hug:

Mx

Martha Wrote:
Dear Tami,

You are most definitely in my prayers. :hug:

Mx


Oh, Tami.:( Don't we just hate the cruel injustice of this system of things? :rant:

I can't say it any better than Son of Korah did, above. He said:

My hands are up to Jah on your behalf.  Keep a clear head and know that the burden is already on the Lord as you confront this situation.

Much Christian Love to You and Myndlon both. Say "Hi!" to him for me, will you?

isomam

Dear Tami,

My prayers are with you.:friends: May Jehovah give you strength and wisdom to face those who wish you ill. May Jehovah reward the lady who's trying to get you fired according to her intentions.

Love and prayers,

Lou:giverose:
Hi Tami

I am also very sorry to hear what is happening at your job. I spent 20 years in the corporate world and I know exactly what goes on. Perhaps if the absolute worst doesn't happen, you might consider the other shift if it is at all feasible. I spent the majority of those years working the night shift just so I would not be the target of any of the backstabbing that goes on during the day. And you might find that having the daytime to get things done is quite an advantage.

Other than that I am praying that this turns out well for you. Trust in Jehovah and see what happens, but as you said, fight for yourself and don't be intimidated.

Agape
Lou
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